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Kurt 31st October 2009 01:14 PM

Inscription translation request
 
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I need your help in trahslation of this inskription .
that perhaps helps :
It`s a primer from Caucasus.

Thanks Kurt

Norman McCormick 31st October 2009 03:29 PM

Hi Kurt,
There looks to be a date/numbers on the left hand side. By my reckoning it reads 1852 although it is not all that clear. If it is a date it is unusual, in my experience anyway, in that the numbers are written in Arabic but referring to a Western dating system. Hope this is of some help.
My Regards,
Norman.

Kurt 31st October 2009 05:12 PM

Thanks Norman,
I believe you right .
I could not understand it.
Regards Kurt

Dom 2nd November 2009 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurt
I need your help in trahslation of this inskription .
that perhaps helps :
It`s a primer from Caucasus.

Thanks Kurt

Hi Kurt
that inscription it's not Arabic language :shrug:
only the alphabet is Arabic

about the date, it's correct what has been translated 1852
nothing strange that it's not Hegira calendar as far as ;
- the owner ... wasn't Muslim ;)
- and for sure wasn't Arab
his references was Christians :p (an indication for you)

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Dom

Dom 2nd November 2009 03:07 PM

just F.Y.I.
because somebody could be shock by the fact that Christians are using Arabic language ...
for instance, the Romans Melkites (Catholic) in Egypt, are
- praying ... in Arabic
- all their liturgical offices are in Arabic
- all their records (bapteme, mariage, funeral) are writing in Arabic
and when I said "Arabic" is classical Arabic, the same than for the Holy Koran

until ... now :D

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Dom

Kurt 2nd November 2009 04:28 PM

Not Arabic
 
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Dom ,
it`s not a schock I know this.
It is a Caucasian work.
Many religions exist there.
Regards
Kurt

Norman McCormick 2nd November 2009 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dom
just F.Y.I.
because somebody could be shock by the fact that Christians are using Arabic language ...
for instance, the Romans Melkites (Catholic) in Egypt, are
- praying ... in Arabic
- all their liturgical offices are in Arabic
- all their records (bapteme, mariage, funeral) are writing in Arabic
and when I said "Arabic" is classical Arabic, the same than for the Holy Koran

until ... now :D

à +

Dom

Hi Dom,
Not shocked at all just less usual in "my" experience and agreed language is not necessarily an indication of a particular 'belief system' but it may be a pointer in some circumstances. My own experience, which is limited, of weapons and related material that incorporates inlaid/inscribed Arabic script/numerals on the whole tend to have an Islamic origin, obviously in this instance that is not the case. :)
My Regards,
Norman.

ariel 2nd November 2009 07:39 PM

The ornamentation is purely Circassian.


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