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messia 3rd September 2016 11:00 PM

determination of the authenticity of the sword
 
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determination of the authenticity of the sword :) :eek:

CSinTX 4th September 2016 02:37 PM

My opinion, modern build.

fernando 4th September 2016 03:38 PM

Amen to that !

messia 4th September 2016 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSinTX
My opinion, modern build.

What confuses you in the sword? What are the disadvantages? :shrug:

Lee 4th September 2016 06:17 PM

Concerns for me...
 
3. Very uniform, shallow pitting across all components.
2. Style of blade.
1. The realization that period claymores are extremely rare such that the odds are very much stacked against antiquity for any recently appearing example.

corrado26 4th September 2016 06:29 PM

The edges of the fullers are much too straight and regular, what is not possible without a modern machinery. So I think this sword is far away from beeing original,
corrado26

NeilUK 4th September 2016 06:57 PM

Almost everything is wrong; the pommel should be strongly bossed, not a bevelled disc; the collar and langets should be forged in one with the quillons; the langets should be slimmer and tapered; the quatrefoils are too thick; the blade should be flat or lentoid in section, not diamond; the ricasso is stepped down much too abruptly; in short it doesn't look right! Quite apart from the fact that virtually all Scots Highland two-handers are known and most are in public collections. Sorry.
Neil

kronckew 4th September 2016 07:03 PM

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the multi-part guard-bolster-languet and the very crisp square ricasso and the fuller going thru it are interesting*. attached is a current sword available very cheaply - who is copying who? it (the new one) does seem yo lack the stamped mark tho.

* - there is an old chinese curse: may you live in interesting times. seemed appropriate :)

cornelistromp 5th September 2016 06:47 AM

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I believe that the sword from post 1 is a recent copy. see some comparisons


PS:also note the scabbards of these swords on the drawing!

best,
Jasper

cornelistromp 5th September 2016 06:49 AM

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messia 5th September 2016 12:03 PM

It can be the sword of the 19th century? (The Castle copy)

ulfberth 8th September 2016 08:30 AM

I fully agree with Neil, "Almost everything is wrong with this sword"
This is so obvious and I'm sorry to say the sword is not 19th C either.
Its a modern partly machine made sword reproduction, aged with acid treatment and its easy to see.
The metal is etched all over from applying the acid on the surface, on this modern mono steel this gives an even etching which can mistakenly look like old pitting.

kind regards

Ulfbert


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