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An Interesting Chopper....But From Where??
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I just picked up this curious chopper. It's very heavy, sits in a stand-up scabbard, mostly exposed, and has a beautifully carved wooden hilt with a heavy brass ferrule.. It is 23in. overall, with an 18in. blade that is rather crudely forged and 3in. wide at its widest point.
When I first saw this one in pics, I thought it might be Indonesian. But having now seen and handled it, with particular reference to the hilt that shares some features that seem similar to some kukri hilts, I am more inclined to think it is a sacrificial chopper from NE India or Nepal. I am certainly still open to any ideas, and look forward to any insights and feedback. Please have a look and let me know what you think. |
Hi Charles,
don't know from where it is, but it is beautiful! :) Malaysia? Regards, Detlef |
Not exactly my field BUT..............the pommel looks like a Lotus so could be either SE Asian OR India/Nepal/Tibet. I would think most likely from a Buddhist country. A most unusual and lovely piece. Well done!
Stu |
Something about that scabbard recalls to my eye some of the more stylized lantaka stands. That, combined with the pommel (again to my untrained eye) appear to be Indonesian. :shrug:
ETA: I really like the profile of that blade... very appealing to the eye. :) |
I lean more toward Southeast Asian/Malay than India . :shrug:
The sprouting hilt motif is quite Indonesian, IMO . I could even be talked into suggesting Sumatra . :o |
Wow, love it when something turns up most haven't seen! Beautiful piece! Thanks for sharing Charles!
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Interesting chopper.
Sumatra (like Rick said) and after WWII IMHO. Michael |
Michael,
I think this is some sort of tool chopper(perhaps sacrificial). It seems rather awkward as a weapon, especially the weight by Indonesian standards. The lack of quality of the blade, other than thickness, seems to add confirmation to that, and I can't imagine that it is more then 70 or so years old, but clearly has seen heavy use. Can you post something from your collection with a similar style hilt for reference? Thanks in advance. |
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Sumatran
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Hi Charles,
I don't have anything exactly resembling but besides the hilt the open and curved scabbard is a tell for Sumatra too. Michael PS Here is the closest I could find but I have seen more resembling scabbards to yours at for instance a well-known SE Asian dealer's web site. |
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I am very familiar with the Sumatran hilts that Rick has posted(and thanks!),
but structurally, doesn't this kukri hilt have as much or more in common with the chopper hilt??? I do see alot more similarities with VVV's examples. |
It is Sumatran as already said. This style of hilt is found on keris panjang.
Take a look at this thread. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...xecution+keris |
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when I look at the handle of your chopper I see a sprouting foliage/vegetable motif . When I look at the kukri hilt you show, I do not see that resemblance; I see rings concavely tapered into each other . Then there is the hilt material itself; Sandalwood ? Very light colored for Kukri Country . :shrug: :) |
Thanks for the pics and input guys!
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It's a good looking piece Charles.
The 'sprouting flower' type hilt seems to be widely used. |
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