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Ferguson 29th June 2008 08:45 PM

Two more gunongs
 
My love affair with this southern Philippine dagger continues. ;)

14 1/2" overall length, inserted edge. First pic is ebay pic with cellophane tape on the scabbard and a "field expedient" leather belt loop. Second is now. I added the rattan wrap, and left the cord wrap at the top. Horn ferrule was split. It has been repaired with epoxy.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...-08overall.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...l-repaired.jpg

10 1/4" monosteel blade. Some fittings are a pinkish color. A copper alloy of some sort I would suppose. Lovely piece.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...unong-5-08.jpg

Battara 30th June 2008 02:50 AM

Once again, you are the Gunong King, and very sharp guy ( :D ) who always makes a good point ( :D ).....ok I'll stop ( :o ).

Yes the pinkish parts are a silver-copper alloy meaning more copper mixed with the copper than usual. The brilliance of Moro craftsmen is that they used different mixtures to get different colors.

Again, have you tried etching these blades?

Ferguson 30th June 2008 11:49 AM

Thanks Jose. :)

Yes, I etched both. The larger one has an inserted edge, but there is little contrast. Hard to see in pictures. The smaller one is monosteel. Since there was no pattern, I used some metal polish to bring it back a bit from the gray etch.

Steve

Lew 30th June 2008 04:24 PM

Hi Steve

Love that big gunong they must have made these larger for some reason probably to get around some type of sword ban or something like that? The smaller one is nice and for some reason it looks familar to me ;).


Congrats

Lew

Battara 1st July 2008 03:42 AM

My understanding is that is right, Lew. After the Battle of Bud Bagsak, all Moros were banned from wearing kris or swords for a while. The gunong began to take it's place, especially since a man is shamed if he did not wear a blade in public (never mind being dangerous).

nacho 14th July 2008 05:54 AM

similar dagger
 
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here is a dagger that looks like yours. This one has inscriptions on the blade. A friend said it could be in Jawi. The handle is ivory.

Battara 14th July 2008 07:09 AM

Thanks Nacho - first gunong I have seen with Jawa on it....

David 14th July 2008 01:45 PM

Very nice Nacho. Do you know what the inscription says?

Ferguson 14th July 2008 04:29 PM

Very nice, and an interesting variation Nacho. Thanks for sharing.

Steve

nacho 15th July 2008 04:27 AM

inscription on blade
 
Hi David,

No, I don't know what the inscription says. I was hoping someone out there might be able to read it.

nacho 16th July 2008 04:31 AM

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Sharing some pics

Battara 16th July 2008 05:17 AM

Interesting gunongs, Nacho. Are the pommels ivory?

PenangsangII 16th July 2008 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nacho
Hi David,

No, I don't know what the inscription says. I was hoping someone out there might be able to read it.

It says "There is no other God but Allah, and Mohamed is His Messenger"

The blade with this kind of inscription is normally worn during war, and the wearer knew that "most probably he would not come back alive".

Reichsritter 18th July 2008 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PenangsangII
It says "There is no other God but Allah, and Mohamed is His Messenger"

The blade with this kind of inscription is normally worn during war, and the wearer knew that "most probably he would not come back alive".

I was told that in former Sulu Sultanate it was the Nashaik (spiritual guide) who decides what inscription should be written to the blade of each warrior, if the warrior is worthy. The Sultan has it's own Nashaik in his Astanah (Palace) called the Dalmatuan.

Inscriptions on the blade are sometimes called by the Tausug a Lakam...it could be in symbols or Jawi. Sometimes a prayer that this blade will never harm its master including its relatives and descendants when the blade falls into different hands.


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