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Bill M 6th January 2019 01:07 PM
#1352 Keris
 
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I see a praying man as the handle, but often it has been represented as a "fevered man" in my syncretism I see both and more.

What do you see, overall

Bill M 6th January 2019 01:21 PM
https://www.britannica.com/topic/religious-syncretism

kai 6th January 2019 05:31 PM
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What do you see, overall
A really nice keris Sumatra/Straits...

Sorry, Bill, could not resist! :)

Back to discussing the symbolism embued into the hilt as this seems what Bill is asking for?

Regards,
Kai

David 6th January 2019 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by kai
A really nice keris Sumatra/Straits...
I would agree! ;)
Bill, we have discussed this hilt form quite a bit over the years. You might find this thread helpful.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=Jawa+demam

Bill M 6th January 2019 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by David
I would agree! ;)
Bill, we have discussed this hilt form quite a bit over the years. You might find this thread helpful.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=Jawa+demam
Thank you David. Fascinating discourse on these hilts. There seems to be common agreement with the carvers of the arms, legs, bodies - but with open expressions for each artist.

"It represents a deity, half bird, half human, probably a Garuda, in a squatting position, holding it sides as if it was shivering with cold (Demam means fever in Bahasa)."

http://old.blades.free.fr/keris/intr...an_sumatra.htm

David 7th January 2019 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill M
"It represents a deity, half bird, half human, probably a Garuda, in a squatting position, holding it sides as if it was shivering with cold (Demam means fever in Bahasa)."

http://old.blades.free.fr/keris/intr...an_sumatra.htm
hmmm....may takeaway from the thread i linked you to is that many possibilities exist for the source representation, from wayang characters to gods and ogres. But i am not particularly inclined to look at the source of this form to necessarily be Garuda. :shrug:


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