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Tim Simmons 1st April 2016 11:15 AM

Ethno Shot gun Pistol
 
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While in the process of acquiring a club from the Amazon Guajajara people and doing investigation into the people and habitat, something I do with any item I collect. I came upon a link with this really cool photograph. I like the bare metal, the rude chunky fashioning and the pistol grip. A shot range blaster, an assault pistol for raiding jungle camps. I would love to have it except it would get you banged up for 4 years in the UK :eek: .

http://avax.news/pictures/177025

Will add the club to amazon thread when I have it.

kahnjar1 1st April 2016 11:39 AM

Send it to NZ. We can own these with the right licence...... :)

Helleri 6th April 2016 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kahnjar1
Send it to NZ. We can own these with the right licence...... :)

Wow you need a license? Here (California) we can own black powder weapons without so much as a background check. I think the only requirement is being 18+ years old. I mean you can't walk around with them (unless transporting gold. And even then probably not the best idea). But on your property, place of legal residence, in your vehicle (if stowed safely), and at a range, it's no issue. shotguns are about as common as a .22 rifle here.

Tim Simmons 6th April 2016 04:43 PM

I know nothing about guns really but to my eyes the only bit not home made or radically changed is the barrel.

colin henshaw 6th April 2016 05:06 PM

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Sort of reminds me of the Lancaster "howdah" pistol. Was available
with 2 or 4 barrels and up to .577 calibre, lead bullets. The ultimate man-stopper !

blue lander 6th April 2016 06:04 PM

Here's a similar concept, an ethno shotgun from Indonesia or the Philippines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFDeh9QsbTI

(skip ahead to around the 1 minute mark)

He uses match heads instead of gunpowder.

estcrh 6th April 2016 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by blue lander
Here's a similar concept, an ethno shotgun from Indonesia or the Philippines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFDeh9QsbTI

(skip ahead to around the 1 minute mark)

He uses match heads instead of gunpowder.

Very interesting and dangerous looking as well.

Rick 6th April 2016 07:45 PM

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A veteran of the last century holds a Moro fabricated slam fire shotgun.

Philip 6th April 2016 11:56 PM

I'd hate to be the monkey standing in front of that thing!
 
Having grown up in Hawaii, we had servicemen passing through since the SpanAm War and over the years a lot of ethno weapons from the Philippines made it to our shores. Most of it was knives, central and norther islands, but there were some guns like this. A guy I knew had a small collection of them. Amazing variety, there's no limit to human ingenuity. Gas pipes were the usual choice for barrels. The most primitive type was a muzzle loader, ignited by the shooter's cigarette (I believe Stone's GLOSSARY...OF ARMS AND ARMOR has a picture of one). Others, like the ones on this thread, were breechloaders of one kind or another. Nails or bolts served as firing pins. There were sliding breechblocks and tip-open actions, the better ones had cocking mechanisms with triggers and spring-driven hammers that worked pretty well. Considering the materials and loose tolerances, I always wondered who was in greater danger -- target or shooter.

Then, in the early-mid 60s, GIs coming back from Vietnam brought some interesting home-made VC guns. Mostly a tad more sophisticated than the early Philippine items, but still looking awfully rickety. The post museum at Schofield Barracks had a nice assortment on display years ago, and if you go to the Military Museum in Hanoi, they have several showcases full of them. If there wasn't so much supervision in the metals shop class I had to take in jr. high school, my buddies and I would have cranked out something like these. In fact, we used to trade sketches of various designs during lunch hour!

Rick 7th April 2016 02:31 AM

Fast forward to 2016.
1911 Colt clones pouring out of the same areas.

Roland_M 7th April 2016 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by colin henshaw
The ultimate man-stopper !

Do you mean the man before or behind this pistol?
This is a deadly weapon, the question is for whom?

kahnjar1 7th April 2016 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Roland_M
Do you mean the man before or behind this pistol?
This is a deadly weapon, the question is for whom?

Good point!! The poor guy in the pic above looks terrified!!!!


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