FLINTLOCK GUN WITH CHRISTIAN 7 MARK FOR ID
 

Here some pics from Danish Gun and pistol .
The pistol had been already post and I have understood that it was a Danish mod 1772 but for the gun I still don't know the exact model.
On the barrel there is one C7 and VB mark.
The stock is in perfect condition made in a very heavy and hard wood,there is some marks on in but very hard to read one n°7 and ???
Any comment on it will be welcome

Cerjak

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still don't know the exact model !
 

still don't know the exact model

I do not know the exact model either but both stocks are clearly of beechwood, which was the characteristic type of wood used for Central and North European military guns from the 17th to the 19th c.

Best,
Michael

Yes Michael it is beechwood and with this wood as you can see the stock could cross 2 more centuries without any problem

Regards

Cerjak

Hi Cerjak,

Almost all of my 17th c. matchlock and wheellock muskets are stocked in beechwood, and they all have been fine for 400 years - give or take a worm hole or two! :cool:

Best,
Michael

:eek: ....... wow!

Thanks!

Though just one single aspect of more than 35 years of closest possible 'academic' collecting confined to earliest Northern European 'Military' firearms and related accouterments.

In case you are interested in seeing more, please check out my threads.

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Hi Cerjak,

I think I finally found what you were looking for: the Tojhusmuseet Copenhagen indentifies your Christian 7 flintlock musket as the Danish model m. 1774, no. 569, the third from the top in my scans.
It seems to be the very first Danish model to feature four ramrod pipes.

I knew it was somewhere in my library, and the scans are taken from Claude Blair, European and American Arms, 1962 and still on top!

You were pretty close in guessing the correct year of this model so. :)


Best,
Michael

Btw, could we please see a close-up of your m. 1774 musket, with the cock in the safety-catch position and the frizzen covering the pan?
It seems to me that even the amber-colored flint, together with its lead lining, might originally belong! The flint appears to have been fired a bit blunt, which is often the case with such genuine old-time accouterments.

m

m1794
 

Dear Michael,

Again thank you for your precious help and those scans from this book showing the caliber and sizes from the different danish models.
So according to "Claude Blair, European and American Arms" it is a M1794 (1440 mm and caliber 17.7mm an) could you tell me witch one it is in this scan .
But from http://norskevaapen.no/?p=551 the m1794 dont have the same triggergard so I still have a problem !
I hope that the photos I will add are the close-up you was expecting.
Kind regards

Cerjak

Thank you, Cerjak,


For the additional images and information. The flint may be the original - what do you think?

It is a pity that 18th c. military guns are too late a subject for me to be really good at; thus I did not notice the differences in the trigger guards. From my former experiences with Austrian and Bavarian 18th c. flintlock muskets though (which was some 30 years ago) I learned that minor differences, such as a 'modernized' trigger guard on an earlier model, seem to have been quite normal with arsenal arms. Basic criteria, like the shape of the lock, are essential.

In Blair's scans attached below, you can see both models 1774 (top) and 1794.


Best,
m

Thank you
 

Thank you Michael

difficult to see a difference between this two model !
I will try to buy this book..
Like you I think that it may be the original flint.
Regards

Cerjak

The buttstock of the m. 1774 is a bit shorter and the trigger guard of the m. 1794 a bit smaller but the diffferences are minor indeed.

The book, among others, is available at amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/European-Ameri.../dp/B0006CLEOI


Best,
m