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migueldiaz 14th April 2011 09:39 AM

Wavy dagger - info requested
 
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hello all ... just picked up this dagger. now am not really sure which country it came from. any comments or similarly-designed blades out there? thanks in advance! :)

David 14th April 2011 02:02 PM

Looks like the Philippine to me Miguel. Luzon?

David 14th April 2011 02:03 PM

It's fairly recent BTW. Hard to pinpoint, but latter part of the 20thC most likely.

migueldiaz 14th April 2011 02:14 PM

David, thanks for the comment :) Indeed on the one hand, it strikes me as Luzon, too. On the other hand, the hilt shape (i.e., cylindrical) and ornamentation (the 'dots') are not typically Filipino. That's why I had some doubts. But now that you mentioned it, perhaps it really is a Luzon dagger. Thanks.

Spunjer 14th April 2011 02:32 PM

Shape of the handle throws off... but yeah, most likely filipino. Is it carabao horn.

Battara 14th April 2011 10:36 PM

I agree Luzon, perhaps even Ilokano, but very recent, certainly post WWII (note the thin aluminum spacers).

Lew 14th April 2011 10:44 PM

This could be an older Indian made knock off?

migueldiaz 15th April 2011 01:33 PM

Thanks for all the comments! :)

Fheng 21st September 2012 07:20 AM

Hi there.
I have some pictures of a dagger of very similar design here.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...id=94970&stc=1
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...id=94969&stc=1
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...id=94971&stc=1
I acquired it from a person who said it of middle-eastern origin, though I'm not sure if that is a fact or a guess.

Here is my number
Number 5 :D
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...id=94968&stc=1

I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this reply ;)

David R 21st September 2012 09:04 PM

I think this one could be Indian, I have seen similar stamped "India", or "made in India".

David 21st September 2012 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fheng
Hi there.
I have some pictures of a dagger of very similar design here.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...id=94970&stc=1
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...id=94969&stc=1
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...id=94971&stc=1
I acquired it from a person who said it of middle-eastern origin, though I'm not sure if that is a fact or a guess.

Here is my number
Number 5 :D
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...id=94968&stc=1

I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this reply ;)

I don't know if it's just me, but all these links come up as invalid for me.
As i stated before, i have a blade almost exactly like this and i am still wiling to bet it is from the Philippines. The sheath is horn like the handle on the front side and wood on the other side with the same aluminum stud designs on the front face. A very low rent dagger that i spent less than the price of a dinner on, but it is big, awesome sharp and dangerous. :)

Fheng 22nd September 2012 04:17 AM

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It's a nice and cheap little dagger, not the best looking scabbard for it though but I really like the blade.
If these pictures don't work them I don't know what will :confused:

David 22nd September 2012 06:33 AM

Yep, that is exactly the same as mine. Where every this is from, so is mine. Still betting the Philippines... :)

Fheng 22nd September 2012 11:42 PM

Hahaha that's interesting David :D
I think it's a nice dagger for what I paid. I find the scabbard a bit ugly but the blade is very sharp and it's got a bit of weight to it.
If we can find out more about these daggers it would be great because I'd like to know as much as I can

Cheers

Rick 23rd September 2012 03:13 AM

India for fifty dollars, Alex . ;)

Robert 23rd September 2012 04:25 AM

I had one of these a couple of years ago that had "LUZON" carved into the scabbard. I also had a pair of these with the same hilts and horn and wood scabbards that did not have wavy blades but straight double edged blades. Philippines for my money.

Robert

David 23rd September 2012 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fheng
Hahaha that's interesting David :D
I think it's a nice dagger for what I paid. I find the scabbard a bit ugly but the blade is very sharp and it's got a bit of weight to it.
If we can find out more about these daggers it would be great because I'd like to know as much as I can

Cheers

Frankly Fheng, while i might pick up this blade in a knife fight (mine is pretty big and sharp) i don't think they are really worth putting too much research into (unless, of course, i choose to take Rick up on that bet ;) ). Not any real historical value here. They are cheaply made, mostly, i would think, for the tourist trade. :)

Fheng 23rd September 2012 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David
Frankly Fheng, while i might pick up this blade in a knife fight (mine is pretty big and sharp) i don't think they are really worth putting too much research into (unless, of course, i choose to take Rick up on that bet ;) ). Not any real historical value here. They are cheaply made, mostly, i would think, for the tourist trade. :)

Well I just thought it would be nice to know a bit more about it. But yeah, it's a cheap tourist knife so I'll just forget it. Check out my other post if you like. It would be great to get some more info http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=16125

Atlantia 23rd September 2012 09:59 PM

I'm with the majority on this one.
Philippine

VANDOO 24th September 2012 04:54 AM

I VOTE PHILIPPINE MOST LIKELY A SHOP IN LUZON. THE FIRST I SAW WERE IN THE MID 1960'S AND I HAVE SEEN ENOUGH OF THEM OVER THE YEARS TO THINK THEY MADE QUITE A FEW INITIALLY AND THEN STOPPED PERHAPS SALES WERE NOT GOOD AT THE TIME AND PLACE.? I HAVE ONE AROUND HERE SOME WHERE I WILL SEE IF I CAN FIND IT. IT HAS A GOOD HEAVY WAVEY BLADE BUT KIND OF A STRANGE HANDLE FOR A PHILIPPINE DAGGER.
I HAVE SEEN THE KNIVES FROM INDIA AND THERE IS A RESEMBLENCE BUT MATERIALS AND BLADES ARE NOT QUITE AS GOOD ON THE ONES I HAVE SEEN. DID THE INDIANS COPY THE PHILIPPINES OR THE OTHER WAY AROUND OR JUST COIENCIDENCE :shrug:


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