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I recently received some objects from a friend who lived in Indonesia with her parents in the 70-80s. Her father traveled all over Indonesia for his work and regularly brought something home. Like these mandau's, quite small 65 and 63 cm. Both blades have a convex and a concave side. One blade is laminated steel with several fractures, faults, one over almost the entire length of the blade. Cutting on the handle reasonably good, especially the ivory piece. In both handles traces of where a coin once sat. Facinating objects but beyond my familiar knowledge. Made for those who travel, the real stuff, just let me know what you guys think.
Regards Marc |
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Those swirls in that ivory hilt are lovely.
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Congratulations Marc!
Very cool swords! What is the diameter of the coin slot? With respect, Yuri. |
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About 15mm. Regards Marc |
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Marc there may have been a coin - Netherlands India 1/10 guilder. I have a Mandau that was also without a coin, I bought it online for a small amount of money.
See the thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=29680 With respect, Yuri. |
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The real deal can be problematic . A sword made for dancing, once used to attack a person becomes real. WW2 era swords were used and Iban warriors in the UK Borneo 1963 -1966 dispute swords were used. These look nice but not sure they will impress the old guard.
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It is ivory, the Schreger lines are clearly visible. regards Marc |
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I agree with David on the cross hatching - elephant ivory
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I agree that the ivory shown here is most likely elephant ivory.
However, ivory from some other animals does also display schreger lines. An expert in this field of ivory identification can in most cases differentiate the source of an ivory, however, in the case of mammoth ivory it can be somewhere between difficult & impossible to be absolutely certain with any identification. Fossil ivory has been used in Indonesian artifacts in the past, & is still being used in Indonesian carvings today. In Bali a tour of shops, galleries & workshops that sell ivory carvings will almost always identify the ivory carvings being offered as "mammoth ivory". |
A.W. Nieuwenhuis in his book "Quer Durch Borneo" describes the Dayaks making mandau handles from deer horn.
The Bornean elephant, or Kalimantan elephant, or Borneo dwarf elephant (Elephas maximus borneensis) is a subspecies of the Asian elephant that lives in the northeast of the island of Kalimantan. |
I had no idea that ivory is rarely used to make a handle for a mandau. Although the material is available locally, culturally it is apparently not the custom to use it.
Have shown the mandau to a friend who is more familiar with it. He confirmed my suspicion that the scabbards were fairly recent, but the swords seemed older. The quality of the carving is good and the small utility knife has a good patina. He also found that the talismanic figure is of good quality and age. As in many cultures, the things most exposed to wear and tear are replaced regularly, perhaps with these mandau's the case. The blade of the mandau with the ivory handle is laminated, not visible in the photo but in the right light and at a certain angle it is slightly visible. I assume the damage to the blade is from use. The flaws present in the steel created during the fabrication process may have been visible but still found good enough to make it a weapon. Regards Marc |
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Aussie ans Iban ww2.
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Hi Marc,
The handle is indeed from ivory, the first mandau I've seen with such a handle. The handle also shows a very nice carving and also a face. Laminated mandau blades are also very rare and seldom seen. In short, you have a great mandau there, I hope Maurice sees this thread and will comment, he is, at the moment, the person who knows as best about mandaus. Great score, congrats! Regards, Detlef |
First time that I see a mandau hilt of ivory ( in over 30 years)
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It would be worth to restore the hilt in my opinion.
The ivory most probably allowed a more detailed carving compared to deer antler. |
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I suppose the piece missing from my mandau is similar to your mandau. A restoration might be considered, I have a piece from which it could be made. Regards Marc |
Hello Marc,
I do not know if there is a specific reason why ivory is seldom/almost not used in Borneo. I have only seen 2 objects of elephant ivory before. Both were earrings, and one of the owners was for some reason claiming that it was an ivorine fake. This is the 3rd object of ivory that I have seen. And based on the carving I am sure this is the real deal 🙂 The material is indeed present as in local elephants. And also through trade it must have been possible to get ivory from either Asia or Africa. Ido notice that elephants do not play a role in the art , myths and religions on Borneo. |
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Ps. I just noticed that on your hilt, the protruding point at the back is an inserted piece of a different material. Probably antler. I assume the ivory was not big enough to carve this protruding point from one piece.
Ps. Here a picture of a hilt of similar quality to give you an idea about how the missing 'nose' might have looked. |
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Mandau hilts were a form of currency in Borneo. If necessary, the owner could remove the hilt from the sword and sell it.
Best regards, Yuri |
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Do you have picture of the other side of the blade ? Roughly / locally forged blades are sometimes referred to as "mantikei". I have 1 blade in my collection with a similar surface as this one. They are rare, but I am not sure if they have a special status. |
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[QUOTE=Marc M.;297764] I also thought I read that the mandau's were kept in the men's house, longhouse. No idea if this is correct, can't find the post again.
A.W. Nieuwenhuis «Quer Durch Borneo» Ergebnisse seiner Reisen in den Jahren 1894, 1896-97 und 1898-1900; Erster Teil Chapter VII. ...The main weapons of the Kayan are the sword (malat) and the spear (bakir); the blowgun (se̥put) plays only a secondary role as a weapon; only a few understand how to use it at all, and no true Kayan is capable of collecting and preparing poison for arrows. It is mainly descendants of the Punan among them who prefer the blowgun, the original weapon of the nomadic tribes. The sword, on the other hand, is not only the most important weapon for the Kayan in war, but also the most important item in daily life, rivaled only by the small knife (nju, Fig. h, Plate: Swords of the Mendalam Kayan), which is always carried in a special container on the inside of the scabbard. Any work that cannot be performed with a knife or axe is performed by the Kayan with his sword, which therefore never leaves his hand. When working in the fields, however, he uses a simple sword made for this purpose to chop down branches and undergrowth. However, when on long journeys, he uses his war sword both against the advancing enemy and for hewing boards and chopping firewood. No Kayan takes two kinds of sword on expeditions, but everyone ensures that his own can serve all purposes. Therefore, both at Kapuas and Mahakam, simple but well-crafted blades are generally preferred for serious military campaigns, while the beautiful ones decorated with inlaid copper and silver serve only as highly valued ceremonial objects. Only a warlike chief, such as the Pnihing chieftain Bĕlarè, also took beautifully crafted war swords on expeditions, but he may well have used them to fell small trees... |
As for the monetary system. an interesting book is :
Stranger in the Forest: On Foot Across Borneo By Eric Hanssen Het crossed the Island by foot in the early 80's and in that time such a journey still depended on trade items, rather than money. |
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Here some pictures of my mandau which I think qualifies as mantikei.
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