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Ibrahiim al Balooshi 19th October 2016 08:20 PM

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I spotted a couple of interesting powder flasks; Two nice Central Asian flasks(Barutdan) with exotic surface style ...one with a birdshead and eye of Turquoise...I show two moon shaped (Talahiq) of Oman...and one interesting Gourd design(Barutluk) with Turkoman style decoration. The black barutdan with studs is Persian :shrug:

kahnjar1 19th October 2016 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi
I spotted a couple of interesting powder flasks; Two nice Central Asian flasks(Barutdan) with exotic surface style ...one with a birdshead and eye of Turquoise...I show two moon shaped (Talahiq) of Oman...and one interesting Gourd design(Barutluk) with Turkoman style decoration. The black barutdan with studs is Persian :shrug:

Nice group Ibrahiim.
The gourd I think now we all agree is in fact a Tobacco/Snuff flask, rather than for priming powder, though it could well do both jobs. See this link http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=21994
Here are two more also included here for library purposes.
Stu

fernando 19th October 2016 10:33 PM

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...The gourd I think now we all agree is in fact a Tobacco/Snuff flask, rather than for priming powder ...

Yes, i have been through such experience as well, with a local seller. I managed to returned them, though, as the deal was based on an actual powder flask basis :shrug:.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi 20th October 2016 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kahnjar1
Nice group Ibrahiim.
The gourd I think now we all agree is in fact a Tobacco/Snuff flask, rather than for priming powder, though it could well do both jobs. See this link http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=21994
Here are two more also included here for library purposes.
Stu


Yes I was aware of the detail outlined by Oliver Pinchot but I found this on Imperial Arms as a sold item as I recall... It has its own name Barutluk.(Barut being gun powder...)..and is decorated in Turkoman design so it is certainly Central Asian ... Imperial describe it as for gunpowder. Certainly the other smaller exotic designed items are well documented but I thought to include this Gourd for comments...

I was looking across Forum and at http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=21994 it quite nicely explains these as snuff boxes...which is a powder...thus easily confusable...though I wouldnt like to mix the two things up!!

Drabant1701 10th May 2017 07:26 PM

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It has been some time since someone added to this interesting thread, so I am resurrecting it with another heart shaped turkish powder flask from my collection. It is most likely from around 1800 and made out of wood with brass decoration. The stopper is bone or horn.

BANDOOK 11th May 2017 01:30 PM

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RARE NEW ZEALAND MAORI MUSKET WARS POWDER HORN IN MY COLLECTION,HAS PLUG MADE OF DEER ANTLER AND HAS SILVER AND OTHER SIDE WOODEN PLUG ,REGARDS RAJESH

BANDOOK 11th May 2017 01:40 PM

MOROCCON POWDER HORNS
 
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HERE ARE 2 OF MY MOROCCON POWDER HORNS,CHEERS

Ibrahiim al Balooshi 11th May 2017 03:10 PM

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The Omani Talahiq gunpowder flask worn in the correct position ...

fernando 11th May 2017 03:39 PM

Three in one ...
 
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Hi guys,
Does this one fit in here ... a rather worn Portuguese rural hunting leather belt with its shot flask and powder horn.
I wouldn't doubt this set has seen a lot of 'action'.

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corrado26 11th May 2017 05:08 PM

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Here are two powder flask of my collection. The iron one was used for the priming powder, the bone one is rather hard for me to date and I 'd appriciate comments.
corrado26

corrado26 16th May 2017 07:11 PM

Nobody for a comment on the bone flask?

fernando 16th May 2017 08:00 PM

Other than it is a most interesting and atypical piece ? :cool: .

Drabant1701 16th May 2017 08:31 PM

I cant say anything about the age of the flask. But one of the pictures looks like a picture of Saint George and the dragon, George holding a swedish or finnish flag. Very intresting objekt once you take the time to really look at it. Thanks for sharing.

stelio 23rd May 2017 03:17 PM

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Bronze powder flask from Balkan area 19th century .

rickystl 28th May 2017 04:38 PM

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Nobody for a comment on the bone flask?

Hi Corrado.

That bone flask looks like it was made for hunting. Maybe Bavarian or Dutch?
It certainly is nice looking. This would be a good one for Matchlock to comment on if he were still with us. My guess is 18th Century - or earlier. It's in great condition. Wish I could offer more help.

By the way, that is a magnificent looking Wheellock Dag and Flsk !!!!

Rick

rickystl 28th May 2017 04:50 PM

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This Thread has produced a large quantity of wonderful looking Ethno flasks. Thanks to all that participated.
Here are two Indian flasks that I posted seperately a couple months ago. I'll re-post here just for this Thread......

A very nice Barudan wrapped in tooled leather in wonderful condition. And a smaller, painted wooden flask in the shape of a fish, probably from South India.

Rick

TVV 20th July 2017 02:04 AM

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Here is a powder flask, described as Moroccan in Stone. Unfortunately, it is not pictured among the flasks in Buttin's plate about Morocco and North Africa. I do not have reasons to doubt Stone's attribution, but then again, I have also never seen a picture or a drawing confirming it.

kahnjar1 20th July 2017 08:20 AM

....and another
 
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Hi Teodor,
Here is a very similar one which I bought recently as Moroccan. Interesting tool came attached to this one.....
Stu

Kubur 20th July 2017 08:34 AM

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Hi Both
Yes Moroccan
Here two of them and one very similar to yours
Best,
Kubur

Ibrahiim al Balooshi 20th July 2017 05:31 PM

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Powder flask (Northwest India, 18th century, wood, paint, gilt) on display in Museum of Islamic Art. Doha, Qatar, February 27, 2010

Ibrahiim al Balooshi 20th July 2017 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by corrado26
Here are two powder flask of my collection. The iron one was used for the priming powder, the bone one is rather hard for me to date and I 'd appriciate comments.
corrado26


Salaams corrado26 These appear to be German or Italian possibly Ox Bone and I think antler tips on top. Late 16th C.

Similar below;

stenoyab 21st July 2017 10:40 PM

Indo-Persian Iranian? Primer flask
 
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A small primer flask from my collection in the shape of a Dove.

With inlay to both sides.

fernando 21st July 2017 11:18 PM

Interesting little example . Could you post a larger picture ?

stenoyab 22nd July 2017 12:05 PM

Afghan / Northern India ?
 
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Heres another priming flask in my collection that came as part of a complete belt rig.

Horn with some nice carving in the shape of a snakes head (Cobra?).

When you press the brass disc on the underside of the flask, it pushes the two ribs of horn and opens the mouth of the snake so you can pour powder.

rickystl 22nd July 2017 04:17 PM

Hi Stenoyab.

Those are two very interesting flasks/horn. The tiny priming flask looks Persian.And looks very well made.
The horn has a very interesting opening/closing mechanism. Never seen this before.
Both very cool. Thanks for posting.

Rick

rickystl 22nd July 2017 04:45 PM

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Here are two recent aquisitions. The seller advertised them both as Moroccan.
But I believe the one with the straps and bullet pouches may be Algerian. Difficult to find these with their original leather strappings intact.

Notice how similar the Moroccan flask looks to others posted above. Seems that 3-4 styles were dominant in the Region.

Rick

stenoyab 22nd July 2017 05:12 PM

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Very nice Rick, not seen one with the leather straps still.

Heres the belt rig that came with the horn primer flask.

rickystl 22nd July 2017 05:23 PM

OH YES !!! Very nice rig Stenoyab!! What is the little box with the chain attached ?

Rick.

rickystl 22nd July 2017 05:23 PM

Possibly a fire stricker ?

stenoyab 22nd July 2017 05:29 PM

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Hi Rick,
Yes a fire striker/pouch, it opens up to show a small pocket for tinder or even maybe match cord?.

I assume this rig is for a matchlock rather than a later flint firearm.

rickystl 22nd July 2017 06:06 PM

Very neat. Yes, could have been used to light matchcord or just a camp fire. Probably both. The long chain would allow it's use without having to remove it from the belt. The whole rig looks Afghan to me. Very neat. Especially the mechanism to open the horn.

Rick

rickystl 22nd July 2017 06:19 PM

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An interesting feature of this Algerian flask is the two small pouches suspended below the flask. They look as if they were used to carry bullets. One of the pouches has a blackened hole worn through the bottom. My guess is from the weight of the lead bullets over a long period of time.
Curious is the length of the straps to the pouches. Hmmmm. Possibly for use as a counter-weight (when filled with lead balls) to keep the flask from jumping around while on horseback (?). Just speculating. LOL

Rick

Kubur 5th August 2017 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rickystl
An interesting feature of this Algerian flask is the two small pouches suspended below the flask. They look as if they were used to carry bullets. One of the pouches has a blackened hole worn through the bottom. My guess is from the weight of the lead bullets over a long period of time.
Curious is the length of the straps to the pouches. Hmmmm. Possibly for use as a counter-weight (when filled with lead balls) to keep the flask from jumping around while on horseback (?). Just speculating. LOL

Rick

Hi Rick,

I missed your post.
I think that your seller was right.
IMHO your powder flask is Moroccan... But close to the Algerian border...

Best,
Kubur

aspalathos 1st June 2022 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by stelio (Post 181697)
Four greek ottoman bullets case (palaskas).first half 19 century.

Hello nice palaskas. Are you sure that are from Greece ?

mahratt 2nd June 2022 11:38 AM

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Priming Flask. Persia.

aspalathos 2nd June 2022 01:24 PM

Powder flasks
 
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Here are my..

SwordLover79 3rd June 2022 05:39 PM

2 similar cartridge boxes and a rammer
 
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Turkish?

aspalathos 13th June 2022 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman McCormick (Post 181886)
A couple more Palaskes.
Regards,
Norman.

Nice!

aspalathos 10th July 2022 03:11 AM

Silver small horn from where?
 
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Need help …

kahnjar1 10th July 2022 04:57 AM

Has looks similar to decorations on Yemeni Jambiya scabbards. Not likely to be a powder flask as neck is too wide. Maybe a lime container?? Perhaps if no replies eventuate here it could be worth posting as a serapate thread.
Stu


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