kai,
I have no desire and prolly wont look up shaver cool, using an inside joke is in bad taste,

"the classic threads should be mandatory reading for new forumites"

sounds tough but for the sake of those who don't we should not joke at their expense particulary when its obvious buttons are being pushed.

saj,

"but some people seems not willing to learn, I ask myself only why such people ask for??"
this is where you got personal first

I was sharing photos and ideas and people come with an agenda that's how I felt and that's my opinion and hopefully this is the last of it. and hopefully people will give useful help. if you can show me a reason this is definitely more new and not worth research that would be a help thanks

You've had one of the world's leading authorities on the subject matter provide you with insights here.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=26884&page=3

It is OK, many here, myself included have been caught in such delemias as I have expressed. It is part of collecting.

Nothing has changed, nor can history and facts be changed about what these swords are.

I can appreciate your passion, insults not so much but whatever gets you through the day. I've been there with other items and within these pages too... I could have barked up the proverbial tree all day, it wasn't going to change the facts...nor did it. it is not going to rewrite the history books, some of which I've shared here with you.

Best analogy I can think of right now...It's like asking a day trader who manages a 7 figure account, someone who is at the pinnacle of their game and how they got there, ask what were their greatest lessons were, their answers are simple... the losses, we all take them, we move, life goes on...