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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey (Post 263734)

This pamor of yours is Lawe Setukel, Rick.

Lawe Setukel means "tangled thread".

This particular form, and there are a number of ways for this pamor to be interpreted, is East Javanese.

It is a very, very select pamor, very few people are able to survive having custody of this pamor, it causes confusion in daily life, forgetfulness, and difficulty in completing tasks that have been planned and should be simple to perform.

There is a tale of an Indonesian Government Minister who was desperate to obtain a particular keris that had this pamor. He eventually did obtain it after great effort, and promptly went insane.

It is generally agreed that the safest course to take if one finds oneself in possession of a keris with Lawe Setukel pamor is to give it to somebody of advanced age, preferably over the age of eighty, for safe keeping.

The reasoning behind this is that these people of advanced age have so little to lose anyway that the evil force contained in Lawe Setukel pamor cannot bring itself to attack them.

Now, he tells me. :rolleyes:
The dementia pamor. :eek:

Better late than never Rick.

I was 80 last February --- always willing to help out an old mate.

If things from the Pamor side of the world are fair game now on this thread, he's a few favorites from my collection.

Have fun,
Leif

XRF Availability

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Originally Posted by Ian (Post 263577)

Lee raises a very good point about the usefulness of X-Ray Fluorescence (XRF) in assessing the elemental composition of blades. While there are some technical issues with detecting certain elements, the technique is non-destructive and well suited to analyzing the surface of weapons. It offers important insight, for example, into the metals used in old blades. Look forward to seeing what the results turn up, Lee.

I assume that I cannot just order an XRF from Amazon. How does one obtain access to such a scientific instrument? Is there a home-built hack for this tech? Could be handy!

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Originally Posted by DaveA (Post 263771)

I assume that I cannot just order an XRF from Amazon. How does one obtain access to such a scientific instrument? Is there a home-built hack for this tech? Could be handy!

Just google them Dave. They are many companies making these and they are very easy to obtain...if you have a spare $15-20,000 laying around. LOL! :D

Dave, there are a number of companies that offer short term rentals of these instruments as they may be used for environmental toxin detection and also for minerals prospecting. Very often junkyards and brokers in precious metals will have units and they may be an economical source for a few scans of a particular object. The hard part, ultimately, may be interpreting the data.

Two of my favorite blades to add to the mix.

Rick love that pattern weld! :D

I would LOVE a pattern laminated (or wootz) kora! :D

Here's three of mines.

A straight kris

Budiak moro spear

and a Kampilan.

Will post more detailed photos of each blades and spear to gain knowledge from all of you.

Thanks!