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Sajen 16th February 2021 11:40 AM
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Here are four of my favorite panabas,(panabi ?).
Hello Drac2k,

Stunning panabas, the one with the centipede! :eek:

Regards,
Detlef

drac2k 16th February 2021 04:24 PM
Thank you Sajen as I like both of yours as well, especially the shorter one; I looked closely at your panabas in a previous post of yours, and the designs with the segmented body and a stylized mouth also reminded me of a centipede. What do you think?

Sajen 17th February 2021 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by drac2k
Thank you Sajen as I like both of yours as well, especially the shorter one; I looked closely at your panabas in a previous post of yours, and the designs with the segmented body and a stylized mouth also reminded me of a centipede. What do you think?
Hello Drac2k,

Never thought in this direction but with some imagination this could be indeed a stylized centipede.
What think other members?

Regards,
Detlef

Battara 17th February 2021 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by drac2k
I looked closely at your panabas in a previous post of yours, and the designs with the segmented body and a stylized mouth also reminded me of a centipede.
I too hadn't thought of that, although I have never seen any research of how Maguindanao and Maranao okir would be used for making a centipede. I do think it is a possibility. Among the Igorots like the Kalinga, Tinguian, and possibly the Bontoc, even half a stylized geometric centipede still represents a centipede and it's potent power.

carlos 18th February 2021 10:31 AM
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Another example more ...

mross 18th February 2021 07:38 PM
Panabi
 
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Decided to a jump in on this and add to the reference photos.

RobT 19th February 2021 11:25 PM
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Hi All,

Here are my two. The haft on the Padsumbalin appears to have been taken from a hatchet. There is a small, round, copper token (stamped 343) attached to the haft. A former item from military stores that found a home in civilian life perhaps? The blade is a bit loose in the haft (especially in winter) and it may have had an additional steel ferrule at the very top.

Sincerely,
RobT

xasterix 17th March 2022 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by drac2k (Post 259715)
Here are four of my favorite panabas,(panabi ?).
Very nice samples! I've noticed that panabas with short handles and long blades tend to be older. I've seen a couple of references pointing to 1800s as the era by which these short-hilted beasts proliferated- while for early 1900s onwards, the panabas evolved to be more proportionate in terms of hilt : blade measurements.

xasterix 17th March 2022 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Rick (Post 259711)
The small panabas pictured here has quite a bit of edge damage and a bullet wound to boot.
What an elegant sample Rick!

Sorry I couldn't help but notice the barung on top- does that have a clipped upper edge?

xasterix 17th March 2022 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mross (Post 259843)
Decided to a jump in on this and add to the reference photos.
Nice panabas! I'm inclined to think the two larger ones are about the same age as mine. I've not encountered the small one that much, but I read somewhere else in this forum that it's supposedly an older version. There were reproductions of it that have been sold in Mindanao until the 90s.

Rick 18th March 2022 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by xasterix (Post 270563)
What an elegant sample Rick!

Sorry I couldn't help but notice the barung on top- does that have a clipped upper edge?
No, not clipped Xas. :)


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