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Maurice 10th January 2012 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by VVV
Here is another pandat I have found.
It has resembling motifs on the scabbard as the others but the end piece on this is ivory, which I haven't seen before.

Michael

Hi Michael,

Thank you for sharing images of this wonderfull piece!
So rare and you have so many of them.
Besides the ones I've seen in museumcollections, I've only held three in my hands.....and the best one of those three is in your collection for a while now (the one with hair).

Regards,
Maurice

VVV 12th January 2012 11:16 AM

I don't have the one with hair, it used to be Ben's.
I know a couple of other forumites also have pandat.
Please also post them here so we can have them as references.

Michael

Maurice 12th January 2012 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by VVV
I don't have the one with hair, it used to be Ben's.
I know a couple of other forumites also have pandat.
Please also post them here so we can have them as references.

Michael

Sorry for the mix-up...

Good idea...I can't post one here, because I don't have one.
Ofcourse I would love to see the pandats other forumites have in their collection.

Maurice

Maurice 18th April 2013 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Maurice
I can't post one here, because I don't have one.

I'm really proud that I'm able now to post my first pandat in my collection!
Finally I was able to add such very rare Borneo piece....


I've also posted a drawing of a pandat with a very similar scabbard, depicted in Henry Ling Roth's book (2nd part).

Maurice

VVV 19th April 2013 05:42 AM

A great piece!
And the first one in this thread of the other main category of Pandat.

Michael

Battara 20th April 2013 02:49 AM

Congratulations! A very nice example.

Maurice 20th April 2013 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by VVV
And the first one in this thread of the other main category of Pandat.

Were the different pandats used by different landdayak tribes?
I never studied the pandats before, but now I have to... :o
But is it me or could I be right that the "little" ones look older and are made less developed as the ones you for instance have?

PS I've found a very nice one of my category in the Tropenmuseum Amsterdam, also with similar scabbard, but than partly filled with tin.

Maurice

VVV 20th April 2013 09:42 AM

I don't think that age and style necessarily have to go together in this case because were used simultaneously.
Shelford is the only source I have found describing the difference between pandats used by different tribes. As usual, you have to be careful with his statements based on that he did not examine that many parang when he wrote his article.

Michael

PS Probably there were much more adornments on the pandits, like tin and feathers, when they were in actual use.

Maurice 20th April 2013 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by VVV
I don't think that age and style necessarily have to go together in this case because were used simultaneously.
Shelford is the only source I have found describing the difference between pandats used by different tribes. As usual, you have to be careful with his statements based on that he did not examine that many parang when he wrote his article.

Michael

PS Probably there were much more adornments on the pandits, like tin and feathers, when they were in actual use.

I agree with you about Shelford fully, as we discussed recently.
But if Shelford would be right, it should mean that mine "has to be" a Bennah land-dayak pandat.
It's amazing how the quality of the forged blades differ between the better forged Sidin land-dayak pandats, in contrast with the Bennah's.
The Sidin's look much more evolved.


About the feathers and tin adornments: Yes they must had a lot more adornments. When looking at the museumpieces for instance, which still have been preserved better as in most private collections.
Don't forget the "pitfalls" and big hook we discussed earlier :) .
I added an image of a interesting one in the Bronbeek museum.

Maurice

Cakszz 30th August 2023 11:29 AM

Unique Pandat Blade
 
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I've just acquired new unique pandat blade, with silver decorative. Any Idea?


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