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Yannis 6th December 2005 05:10 PM

Very good thread

I know the Ebay id for very few members of the forum. Except one or two persons that I have a more close relation I have no problem to bid against the others or even snipe them. They have done the same to me, no problem.

Andrew is honest when he says
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Originally Posted by Andrew
There is a small group of folks I will consult with prior to bidding on certain items, to guage relative levels of interest. I won't waste my time bidding on something someone else just has to have. This isn't false collegiality, it's good business, in my opinion.

I am not in such group, but if someone ask my opinion for an item I will not have a problem to share it. If I am lucky he will pay back the favor some other time. It happened few times.

nechesh 7th December 2005 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BluErf
Our Paul (De Souza) faces the same problem. :) The appearance of his ebay handle becomes a 'kiss of death' for 99% of his auction bids.

Hi John -- that is a carita. It's a beauty, but it won't be going into my collection though. I'm somebody's 'hired gun' in this case. :)

Hi Kai Wee. That looks like a beauty. I hope before you pass it on to it's new owner that you have time to take some nice pics of it and post them. I had been watching this one myself, but it will be much easier for you (or the guy you won it for) to commission a sheath for it over there.....otherwise i would have sniped it from you myself! ;) :D

CharlesS 7th December 2005 04:15 AM

Like many of us I have been on both sides of the sniper routine...won some, lost some. I can honestly say that when I put forth a sniper bid it is usually done at least 12 hours before the end of the auction, and I don't have a clue whose bidding, as I just wait to hear the results.

I do have a small group of forumites I confer with about items of mutual interest. I've stood down more than once, as have they.

Like so many of you, I am not sure there is a simple solution to this, but I do not believe that accusations or anger are beneficial.

Bill M 7th December 2005 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew
I snipe every auction. No exceptions. And everyone who knows my eBay handle knows this.:D

Me too. I usually take a look at something I want and then place my maximum bid with the sniper software. It will hit in the last 6 to 4 seconds.

Usually I don't know who is bidding against me because I don't follow the auctions that much once I have placed a bid.

I have beaten a few Forumites here, and in some cases have emailed the bidder and offered it to them for my bid unless I was really in love with it.

And, hey, I have been sniped also. My first eBay auction. A wonderful CHinese wedding bed went for a dollar more than my highest bid. WOW! That hurt!

But now I realize that the winning bidder could have bid hundreds of dollars more than me and only had to beat my bid by a dollar.

So I throw out the line and see what gets caught. No offense intended to anyone.

But I have been "shadowed" and have gotten into a "testestosterone war" with other bidders inching the price up.

I do not care to play that game. Just set my bid and go do other things. See what I have caught when the auction is over and eBay sends me a message:

"YOU WON!" Now pay the seller.

"YOU WERE OUTBID" Here is a list of more stuff. Go and bid some more.

erlikhan 7th December 2005 03:49 PM

Is it completely free according to ebay rules to use sniper software? Some say they would ban if they catch you sniping with software or would cancel your winning bid. And more important, is it safe to give your ebay name and password to the sniping sites?

regards

VANDOO 7th December 2005 03:57 PM

I GUESS HAVING THE SNIPEING SOFTWARE WOULD BE THE BEST THING CONSIDERING THAT IT EXHISTS AND PROFESSENIAL SELLERS USE IT. A PERSON SITTING AT HIS KEYBOARD HAS LITTLE CHANCE OF BEATING IT NO MATTER HOW FAST YOU TYPE. IT MAKES THE WHOLE AUCTION IMPERSONEL LIKE SEEING WHAT YOU WANT AT THE PREVIEW, LEAVING ABSENTEE BIDS AND NOT ATTENDING THE AUCTION. JUST READ YOUR EMAIL CLEAN OUT THE LOSSES AND PAY THE WINS EVERY SO OFTEN AND DO MORE PLESANT THINGS THAN SITTING IN FRONT OF A COMPUTER POISED TO TYPE.

I WONDER IF LIQUOR SALES ARE UP? A GUY GETS HAMMERED ON EBAY HAS A DRINK TO KILL THE PAIN, BIDS AGAIN GETS HAMMERED HAS A DRINK AND SO ON. AHA!! PERHAPS THATS WHY THE PRICES KEEP GOING UP ON EVERYTHING ON EBAY. STOP THE DRINKING GUYS YOURE KILLING ME :D

Rick 7th December 2005 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by erlikhan
Is it completely free according to ebay rules to use sniper software? Some say they would ban if they catch you sniping with software or would cancel your winning bid. And more important, is it safe to give your ebay name and password to the sniping sites?

regards

Here's an ebay forum thread on sniping Erlikhan :
http://forums.ebay.com/search.jspa?o...iping+software

Yannis 7th December 2005 05:30 PM

I remember now a very wild sniping few months ago. A fine 16th century sword got more than $10000 dollars the last minute to close in $22000. The buyer is a member of the forum and a profesional dealer. Do you think that he could get it if he had show his intentions? Probably not.

BSMStar 7th December 2005 06:53 PM

Interesting thread... and all this time I thought my wife was bribing you guys to snipe me. :D :D :D

Tim Simmons 7th December 2005 07:59 PM

What happens if several bidders on one item are all snipers? Does that not counter act any software or am I just really dumb :confused: . Tim

MABAGANI 7th December 2005 09:32 PM

I would guess the win still goes to the bidder with the higher maximum bid. So what happens if by coincidence two or more bidders using software happen to place the same maximum bid? Do the software companies offer the fastest nano sec reaction time...and what if its the same software?

Andrew 7th December 2005 09:38 PM

Good questions! I don't know the answers, but I've thought about this before.

I always bid in odd increments (e.g. $37.59) to reduce the chances of identical bids.

erlikhan 7th December 2005 09:55 PM

And not any one of you are afraid of giving your ebay name and password away to some sites which are officially nothing???

MABAGANI 7th December 2005 09:59 PM

The whole snipe software thing is totally non-personal, from now on if you got a beef with any of my snipes blame it on my computer...lolz. It makes sense for ebay to allow it because it forces buyers to put as much as they could afford as opposed to some collectors making contact to keep the price down.

Andrew 7th December 2005 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by erlikhan
And not any one of you are afraid of giving your ebay name and password away to some sites which are officially nothing???

Nothing's perfect, erlikhan. :) However, like any internet-based business, sniping sites won't make any money if they aren't secure and trustworthy. I've used one snipe service for several years without a single problem.

Andrew 7th December 2005 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MABAGANI
The whole snipe software thing is totally non-personal, from now on if you got a beef with any of my snipes blame it on my computer...lolz.

Exactly! :D I usually place snipe bids immediately after I spot something I want. After that, I ignore the auction until I get an email notification. This strategy avoids bidding wars and prevents me from re-evaluating what I'm willing to pay for something.

I do much better spending as little time on eBay as possible. :(

erlikhan 7th December 2005 10:53 PM

Ahh ok then, I feel very comfortable and secure now :p . Which site have you used?

Rick 7th December 2005 11:54 PM

I'm not telling ......... :p

Ed 29th January 2006 06:31 PM

I snipe everything. Frankly, it is self protection. I would bid, say $45 and tell myself "that's it." Then I'd watch and say "well, $55 is not that much more". By the end I'd be saying "that @#%%#$, if he thinks he's getting it for $356 he has another think coming". $500 later I have an authentic counterfit coin.

Now, I place a bid for what I am willing to pay and don't look again. Sometimes there is a pleasent surprise, sometimes not. Frankly, I don't really recall what I've missed.

Spunjer 29th January 2006 07:46 PM

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"I would bid, say $45 and tell myself "that's it." Then I'd watch and say "well, $55 is not that much more". By the end I'd be saying "that @#%%#$, if he thinks he's getting it for $356 he has another think coming". $500 later I have an authentic counterfit coin."
ROTFLMAO! :D :D :D

...well, it might not be so funny if it's my hu hu's getting sniped

Ed 29th January 2006 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunjer
ROTFLMAO! :D :D :D

...well, it might not be so funny if it's my hu hu's getting sniped

Funny cuz it is true.

I have actually watched myself, like an out of body experience, paying some multiple of what I think the thing is worth and thinking "Ed, you are deranged" and (worse) replying "this is the last raise".

One time I got an arrowhead and some guy had wanted it for a museum somewhere. I emailed the guy and told him I lost control and felt like an idiot and that he could have it for his high bid. See, I didn't really want the thing, I just didn't want to loose.

Thank god for Auction Sniper.

Spunjer 29th January 2006 09:13 PM

just remember:


Pride is a mo-*explicitive*...


you're not the only one, bro; i'm sure it happened to a lot of us here, lol.


...sometimes greed takes over as well.

Montino Bourbon 30th January 2006 01:39 AM

I always bid in the last ten seconds
 
My friend who collects sheet music taught me that years ago, and I have practiced that every time that I really wanted something.

And if I REALLY want it I'll make my maximum bid as high as I can afford.I don't waste my time trying to get close and save pennies. Better to bid boldly and win by a few dollars than to get cheap and realize that you lost by a dollar.

I'll be posting this pesh-kabz soon- I am still waiting to get it.

Item number: 6595754942


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