Yes, verga is a piece of wood. So, the title "Countess of Vergara" implies she was a noblewoman in a woody land....

:D

M


BTW: In Spain, a batel was an early type of medieval boat/small ship with a roundish, wide bottom, I believe they were known as cockles in the English world?

In the discoveries context, the batel was the largest of the boats carried aboard ships. It could carry several men, manoeuvered by oar or sail, and was used for several heavy duty services, like taking personel ashore, bring the water barrels aboard, engage in battle, do exploitation or fighting incursions up rivers, and even tow the ships when the wind was weak or absent, or from an incovenient direction. In the battle of Ormuz (Afonso de Albuquerque 1507) the bateis were used to tow the ships to the vicinity of the enemy's (Turks) vessels, for close quarters bombardment and consequent boarding. They were often carried inside the ships, near the main mast; in the case of smaller ships (caravels), bateis were often carried sideways ( board to board) and upside down, between the mast and the stern.
The smaller boats aboard (or towed) were the esquifes, operated by four or six oarsmen, and only used for small tasks, including the transportation of some person, like taking a captain to the admiral ship, for a meeting.
Fernando

Vergas could be huge ... i mean, ship's vergas (spars) ;) .
I don't know whether French adventurer Pyrard de Laval (1575-1652) was exagerating when, at describing the Portuguese naus of the India route as being the largest ships afloat, quoted their spars as measuring twenty four fathoms, needing two hundred men to lift them ... and with the support of two powerfull capstans.
How's that? :confused:

So, what you are stating is that the Portugese are the ones who have the biggest ver... err... spars?
Big words, there. I hope you have something to show us in order to back them up!


Please, someone stop me... :o

Your'e right; big words ... only. Nothing to show anymore; that's long gone :shrug: .

You tell me... :rolleyes:

But what was hanging from these... spars... made them build one of the biggest and greatest commercial empires the world has seen. And I mean the sails, of course. :)

On a more serious note, I always admired, sincerely, how they managed, given their demographics.

And I better stop now with the plays on words... :)

Best,

Marc

Collection of museum of artillery in Saint-Petersberg has greatly increased. Some things was removed. I was able to measure one barrel and make quality photos of them. Total length is 1925 mm, calibre is 105 mm:

We can clearly see the marks:

Great shots of some of these types, Alexender. I especially love the small brass British ? coehorn mortar. Thanks for the pics!

Great cannon example Alexander.
Thanks for showing.

Just excellent images, Alexander! :cool: :eek:


This one sure is a roaring New Year's fire cracker. :rolleyes:

Actually these seem to be two different guns, and I'm not sure which one the scrolled and marked rear finial belongs to.

The one with the hook to me seems to have been made about ca. 1430-40 and it is very nice to see that it retains most of its original painted red lead (minimum) painted surface.


Could you please mail me the images in high resolution? :)

Anxiously waiting to see more of the museum's extended exhibition,
Michael

It is one gun.
I think too. But i think that pan was made later (about 1500 year)
yes i will
I have not made photos of new thing becaurse i was very hurryed but i whant to make this later.

You are perfectly right, I forgot to point that out. This pan may even have been added as late as the Thirty Years War (1618-1648).

What I feel is most striking: the various deeply struck marks in their armor shields on the rear finial of the long tang! :cool: :eek: I've never seen anything quite like that.

Best,
Michael

Yes; i haven't mentioned that in my previous post, but i was also most impressed with that detail.
Do you feel like digging on such particularity, Michl?

Oh yeah, 'Nando,

I dig such lovely details a whole lot! :cool: :eek:

Best,
Michael