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Flavio 12th October 2008 05:22 PM

Michael, that's good! It's always better to know if more persons think the same think more than 2 or 3, don't you think so? :)

Andrew 12th October 2008 05:49 PM

That sure looks like a scarf weld to me. I might think differently were I to handle this thing, but from the photos it looks fairly obvious. :shrug:

Rick 12th October 2008 07:43 PM

Judging from the two sides of the blade it sure looks like it may have been broken and repaired . :shrug:

Either that or it's a thinner spot on the blade . :confused:

Flavio 12th October 2008 07:55 PM

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OOOOOPPPPPSSSS :p Yes Rick it's for 3 times the same side.... but you can see the other side on the pics that I have posted before :) Anyway here are pics of both sides, thank you ;)

Rick 12th October 2008 08:17 PM

Yes, stupid me . :o :o
I didn't realise until I had posted; I edited but you caught me anyway . :o :D

I don't see why this couldn't be a Philippine blade that entered a culture where keris and Sundangs are ritually etched . :shrug:

Flavio, do you think the blade was re-welded at that area ?
Is the blade any thicker or thinner there ?

Flavio 16th October 2008 09:17 PM

Hi Rick,

sorry for the delay... I was digging at an Iron age necropolis and I'm very busy :) Ah, anyone here is interested to see an iron sword with scabbard just excavated? It's just 2800 years old....! :D :cool:

Rick, the blade is neither thicker neither thinner. Simply the thickness reduces from the zone of the gangya toward the point. I don't think that is a scarf welded blade, just the lamination is made in such way :shrug: .

Thank you :)

Rick 16th October 2008 11:22 PM

Hi Flavio, thanks . :)
That is an interesting effect that I have not seen before .

Flavio 17th October 2008 11:24 AM

Hi Rick, you're welcome :)

Seems that this kris/sundang shows some peculiar aspects rare to see on other pieces :)

Flavio


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