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Ian 30th March 2025 02:50 AM

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Just one last thought on the similarity between gunong and kris blade styles. Here is a relatively modern kris blade that shows the square shoulder preceding the first luk on the "back edge" of the blade, and the ">"-shaped point with its acutely angled tip. The blade does not have a separate gangya, and the tang is very short (although Moro kris can have surprisingly short tangs, this one is shorter than most). The elephant trunk area suggests a Maguindanao origin for this blade.

The okir style engraved on the blade, with cross-hatching, is found on early 20th C pieces (say, 1900–1920/1930), and this is consistent with the blade features noted above. Similar blades were made later without the engraved okir.

I think this may help date some of the gunong shown here. However, the production of these small knives has extended for more than a century, and continue today. Those seen for sale now are nearly all 20th C in origin, sometimes reflecting earlier styles. I don't think one can say that because the blade on a gunong resembles a kris style of the late 19th C or early 20th C it is therefore from that same period. I think one can say it is of a style that does not predate the corresponding kris style, however it could have been produced decades later. Only a small fraction of Moro gunong/punal coming on to the market these days are 19th C in origin and it is good to see pictures of knives in an early style posted in this thread. The popularity of the gunong as a souvenir item will see its continued production in the Philippines, although current quality may not be what it once was.

Ian 24th May 2025 12:13 PM

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Here's another one with the older style of brass ferrule and guard, similar to others shown in this thread. The blade may be a recycled end portion of a Moro kris. The scabbard appears to be newer than the knife.
Overall length 30 cm (~11.5 in.)
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drac2k 26th May 2025 06:06 PM

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Since everyone was posting punals,I thought I might post a couple of mine.

Ian 27th May 2025 02:15 AM

Hi drac, Very nice gunong in heavy silver mounts. I think these are all 20th C examples, whereas this thread has been focussing on earlier pieces with brass/bronze ferrules and guards.

drac2k 2nd June 2025 07:26 PM

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Ooops;who knew that a thread that was titled "Bronze and Brass Punals," meant punals with bronze & brass fittings,lol.I guess my powers of observation haven't diminished(just not improved).
Let me try again

Ian 2nd June 2025 11:53 PM

That's much better. :):):)

Those both look older examples. The more elongated, less "globular," pommel on the bottom one looks like an older style, and the top one has a brass/bronze ferrule that fits right in with the styles shown in the earlier part of this thread.

Nice examples. Thanks for sharing them.


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