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francantolin 12th October 2024 11:48 PM

Authentic pics more than this kind of ''warrior'' pictures where men seems just dressed like that for a souvenir picture mardi gras ...
( I did the same at the Alhambra in Granada , for few buckets, dressed with arabo-andalous clothes and holding a large khanjar.. maybe one time I'll post it 😁

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Armenian warrior from Zeytun


francantolin 13th October 2024 12:05 AM

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Other briganti / bandits from Bisaccia /Irpinia

Around same period: 1862

Pertinax 16th November 2024 02:22 PM

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Bedouin warrior, Saudi Arabia, 1906

roanoa 16th November 2024 10:58 PM

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From an old Italian book on world costumes

roanoa 16th November 2024 11:01 PM

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some more pictures

gp 22nd November 2024 09:43 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3i7K8Ep7Lw

that Caucasian ladies knowing how to use the shaska as in the above video,
is not something new....
as one can see from these pics, some dating back to around 1910...

Maurice 22nd November 2024 10:20 PM

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Achenese warrior

gp 30th November 2024 10:27 PM

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1877 Kurd & Karakulak

Sajen 1st December 2024 01:21 PM

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A Tanimbar warrior with a keris! :eek:

Sajen 1st December 2024 06:29 PM

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And here is a picture from the Ngada people of Flores with shields, guns and a stick sword.

gp 6th December 2024 11:36 AM

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3 pics from the Balkans;

a militia ( Serdars) with Austrian K.u.K. army officersin Hercegovina 1905
police in the town of Trebinje 1907
a Royal Guard from Gorazde around the 20ies or perhaps a little later

Pertinax 11th December 2024 04:54 PM

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Mongolian warrior in battle dress, Mongolia, circa 1900.

Rick 11th December 2024 08:22 PM

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Americans.

David R 12th December 2024 12:09 AM

Usually family members in this sort of photo, and I would guess Confederate recruits, 1860.

AvtoGaz 12th December 2024 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by francantolin (Post 293661)
Authentic pics more than this kind of ''warrior'' pictures where men seems just dressed like that for a souvenir picture mardi gras ...

Its not a souvenir picture, they really were just that heavily armed in everyday life. It was really not uncommon at all for many of the peoples of Anatolia and the Balkans.

"In front of and behind the mules or at their sides, walked robust young men; they had light and narrow clogs at their feet; woolen breeches wrapped around their legs; a reddish belt tightened their waist, contained first pistols and carried the leather powder magazines; from the belt hung the half-meter long sabers, next to small powder boxes and bags which contained bullets: their busts were covered with jackets of variegated wool, the sleeves rolled up to the elbows; and the very long sleeves of their shirts, tied at their ends, passed behind their necks; at their backs, on the right side, stood the rifles, having barrels a meter long, and flat triangular stocks; they wore the Tunisian fez, wrapped in large red silk kefié, rolled up several times, giving a terrible appearance to their faces; They were all tall with blond moustaches curled up on their alert and young faces : they were the brave men of Zeďtoun." -Zeďtoun: Depuis les origines jusqu'ŕ l'insurrection de 1895

David 12th December 2024 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AvtoGaz (Post 294725)
Its not a souvenir picture, they really were just that heavily armed in everyday life. It was really not uncommon at all for many of the peoples of Anatolia and the Balkans.

"In front of and behind the mules or at their sides, walked robust young men; they had light and narrow clogs at their feet; woolen breeches wrapped around their legs; a reddish belt tightened their waist, contained first pistols and carried the leather powder magazines; from the belt hung the half-meter long sabers, next to small powder boxes and bags which contained bullets: their busts were covered with jackets of variegated wool, the sleeves rolled up to the elbows; and the very long sleeves of their shirts, tied at their ends, passed behind their necks; at their backs, on the right side, stood the rifles, having barrels a meter long, and flat triangular stocks; they wore the Tunisian fez, wrapped in large red silk kefié, rolled up several times, giving a terrible appearance to their faces; They were all tall with blond moustaches curled up on their alert and young faces : they were the brave men of Zeďtoun." -Zeďtoun: Depuis les origines jusqu'ŕ l'insurrection de 1895

Your original photo that you posted was so far back in the thread that i am reposting it so that your response here can make more sense. ;)

gp 13th December 2024 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AvtoGaz (Post 294725)
Its not a souvenir picture, they really were just that heavily armed in everyday life. It was really not uncommon at all for many of the peoples of Anatolia and the Balkans "

Indeed, hereby a few more pics from several peoples on the Balkans.
Don’t forget, those times where dangerous with bandits, brigands, local militia, unpaid soldiers from armies wandering around at the border of great empires…it was not that safe and one had to protect oneself….

I never forget the first time I arrived in Sarajevo and Kotor on motorbike in 1985, I was asked where I came from. On my reply “ Maastricht”, they asked where that was. When I said “Limburg” a big long laughter followed.
Asking what was so funny, they told me that Limburg was synonym for BS, nonsense, nothing….
Root cause was simple :
since Medieval times when all were part of the Holy Roman Empire ( Emperor Sygismund) and also later when the Ottoman and Habsburg successors took over, if a guy would travel from Sarajevo to Cologne , Maastricht (Limburg)or Brussels, chances he arrived or worse returned were a minimum . Also found in Crnojanski’ semi historical book “ the Pandurs” AKA “ migration”. Hence Limburg became quite understandable a “ funny ” laughable name, implying either a suicidal mission or one of no return caused by danger on the road….so not to be compaied with Jack Kerouac’s “ on the road”….
Just a simple indication or justification one had to arm himself very well. A matter which continued through the Balkan wars of the 1912ies to the tragic events in the former Yu during the 1990ies

Made sense to me and if you look which borders one had to cross from the Balkans and which dangers to face, one had to be carefully and good armed as there was no 2nd amendment on the Bill of Rights in the Balkans…:-)

Maurice 13th December 2024 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gp (Post 294746)

I never forget the first time I arrived in Sarajevo and Kotor on motorbike in 1985, I was asked where I came from. On my reply “ Maastricht”, they asked where that was. When I said “Limburg” a big long laughter followed.

Hi GP,

Thank you for posting the nice photos.
Greetings from another resident of (south) Limburg

Pertinax 13th December 2024 08:07 PM

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Nubians. Sudan, second half of the 19th century

AvtoGaz 22nd December 2024 02:50 AM

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Armenian from Moks region

Bit hard to see, but he has a Khanjar dagger and a curved saber. From what I have been able to tell the swords used in the very easternmost part of the Ottoman Empire by Armenians and Kurds were more similar to Persian Shamshirs or Transcaucasian/Georgian Khmali sabers than to the classic Turkish Kilic. The Yatagan was also not widely used there.

gp 22nd December 2024 10:11 PM

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as in a yataghan topic, the Balkan Wars was mentioned, enclosed a few pics from the men involved...

Albanian, Greek, Montenegrin, Bulgarian, Serbian


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