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mahratt 16th February 2023 12:09 PM

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Khassadars with choora daggers, Waziristan, 1920

dat_man 20th February 2023 10:12 PM

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Bedouins with spears/ lances

kronckew 21st February 2023 01:32 AM

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Camel corps of King abdul-Aziz, Head of the Saudis.


In 1902, the Saudi bedouins recapture the Masmak Fort in Riyadh, and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia was reborn after 3 years of further battles. They surprised the enemy garrison. As they charged the rapidly closing gate, a camel lancer hurled his spear at the gate, the blade stuck in the door, and snapped off. It is still there. They stormed the fort and captured it.



The Camel warriors, the gate, and the fort:

gp 14th March 2023 01:46 PM

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some pics from albania between 1885-1910

Teisani 15th March 2023 05:47 PM

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Wallachian haiduc (outlaw basically), Iancu Jianu 1788-1843.

gp 19th March 2023 12:17 AM

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pictures of several gaucho's from Brazil, Uruguay and Argentina with their facón / knives ( between 25-50cm / approx. 10 - 20 in.)

Rick 19th March 2023 01:51 AM

Middle picture:
Looks like an old Iver Johnson top break revolver w/pearl grips on his belt.
Beautiful kit.

The three in the picture below him all look like they are carrying swords,.

gp 19th March 2023 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick (Post 280429)
Middle picture:

The three in the picture below him all look like they are carrying swords,.

it actually is a caronero; a long knife used by the gauchos.
But it looks that indeed other weapons like swords might have been borrowed...

gp 19th March 2023 10:05 PM

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article called "PROMENADE A TRAVERS LA PAMPA GAUCHO" a walk through the gaucho's pampa from 1881

and how it looked like

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JDDX_z7tT10

and a little info on these long ones:

http://esgrimacriolla.blogspot.com/2...-caronero.html

Ian 21st March 2023 10:51 AM

gp,

I'm not sure those blades are very true to reality. They look more like folding knives, such as navaja, than facón or cuchillo. This could just as well be a Mediterranean scene, despite the legend to the drawing. Popular travelogues from the nineteenth century generally took a lot of license with what they presented, and often times the stories were written by people who had not ventured very far from Europe.

fernando 21st March 2023 04:00 PM

Amen.

David R 22nd March 2023 01:29 AM

I am also very sceptical of the "ice-pick" grip of the blades, which is rare in real life and specialised for a power strike or finishing move. As I understand it Gaucho fought for prestige and to settle disputes usually with a poncho or blanket wrapped round the left arm as a protection.

Turkoman.khan 17th April 2023 09:01 PM

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DUPRÉ, Louis (1789-1837). Voyage à Athènes et à Constantinople, ou Collection de portraits, de vues et de costumes grecs et ottomans, peints sur les lieux. Paris: Dondey-Dupré, 1825

Ralioundji. Military sailor attached to the Ottoman Admiralty

fernando 18th April 2023 11:08 AM

Excelent image :cool:.

kronckew 18th April 2023 01:46 PM

Kalioundji: He looks rather small in proportion to his weapons.:confused::confused:

fernando 18th April 2023 01:49 PM

Whatever ;).

cyten 20th April 2023 11:04 PM

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Sharpening Kindjals in Ganja, Azerbaijan

gp 23rd April 2023 12:36 AM

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Man from Fèlibè / Plodiv around 1873
Man from Montenegro around 1900 / 1910
Man from Skafia Crete 1880/1900

gp 23rd April 2023 12:39 AM

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2 pics from the Georgian tribe of Hevrusians

Rick 23rd April 2023 06:59 PM

Those must be drinking horns; I was a bit puzzled about their use initially.

gp 23rd April 2023 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick (Post 281447)
Those must be drinking horns; I was a bit puzzled about their use initially.

Yep and I can recommend Georgian wine: excellent wine indeed! ☼

Turkoman.khan 28th April 2023 09:59 AM

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DUPRÉ, Louis (1789-1837). Voyage à Athènes et à Constantinople, ou Collection de portraits, de vues et de costumes grecs et ottomans, peints sur les lieux. Paris: Dondey-Dupré, 1825

A Greek raises his flag on the walls of Salona, on the day of Easter in the year 1821

cyten 2nd May 2023 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick (Post 281447)
Those must be drinking horns; I was a bit puzzled about their use initially.

They say it's so you cant set it down until you've finished your drink!

cyten 2nd May 2023 09:56 AM

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Kabardino-Balkaria 1913

Svaneti

Karachay-Cherkessia

Pitt1999 17th May 2023 06:47 AM

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Adding some photos of Sardinian weapons being carried/worn. These are mostly photos of people wearing the iconic Sardinian leppa but a few are photos of people holding the unique Sardinian style of miquelet musket. Most of these I found on Pinterest, while some were found on Russian sites comparing Sardinian swords to Shashkas. I tried to find the highest quality versions of these photos that I could, but some of these photos are still a bit poor in that regard.

Pitt1999 17th May 2023 06:52 AM

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More photos...

AvtoGaz 3rd June 2023 07:18 AM

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Armenians

kino 3rd June 2023 05:00 PM

Mindoro Island
 
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Mangyan tribe, Mindoro Philippines

AvtoGaz 6th June 2023 12:58 PM

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The Armenian princes of Zeytun

Turkoman.khan 4th July 2023 12:16 PM

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Turkmen delegation in St. Petersburg on the occasion of the anniversary of the inclusion of Merv into the Russian Empire. Photo taken in 1900-1910

cyten 5th July 2023 08:23 AM

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Northern Albanians

cyten 8th August 2023 03:39 PM

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Laz men with "Black Sea Yataghans"

David 8th August 2023 08:24 PM

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Laz men with "Black Sea Yataghans"

The handwritten caption on this photo seems to identify these men as Kurds. Is this incorrect then?

gp 8th August 2023 09:26 PM

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Northern Albanians

picture is from a man of the famous Shalla or Shala tribe with Sokol Shpendi as one of their fiercest leaders and warriors


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbfUqRIG-Vc

cyten 9th August 2023 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 283716)
The handwritten caption on this photo seems to identify these men as Kurds. Is this incorrect then?

I also asked a local friend here in Armenia and was told they were more likely Laz than Kurds, but I'm not an expert in this

Rick 5th September 2023 07:37 AM

Batak?
 
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I see a piso podang and some interesting spears; not to mention some badiks.
Also the figure on the left seems to have an absurdly large pedang or parang; would love to see what kind of blade is in that scabbard.

cyten 22nd September 2023 01:38 PM

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Gunsmiths in Bethlehem 1890's

Rick 28th September 2023 05:08 AM

Showing Off
 
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I don't remember if I have posted this in the thread already.

kronckew 28th September 2023 09:08 AM

Interesting Cossack photo of old Scarface...

werecow 30th September 2023 02:10 AM

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Came across this depiction of Baboa people wearing their traditional short swords or knives on an ethnographic arms dealer's site.


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