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David 31st March 2020 05:15 PM

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Here and there....

David 31st March 2020 05:20 PM

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Sulawesi, Jawa, Bali and more...

fernando 31st March 2020 07:54 PM

No photos available but, instead...
 
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Pity there were no photographers in the 16th century, David; but there were painters and chroniclers to leave us images ... and history ;) .

By the way ...

It is admittable that, the Javanese features & attire as in the watercolor executed by a naive artist of the period, do not correspond as whole to reality but, the use and purpose of the keris is as precise as described by Tomé Pires (1465-1540) and Fernão Lopes de Castanheda (1500-1559)


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Yvain 24th April 2020 05:58 PM

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I was searching cameroonese pictures for something completely different, but I thought those might still be interesting.

-"Kirdi musician", dagger, Far North Cameroon - Mayo-Sava - Mora, 1931 - 1933 (http://www.quaibranly.fr/fr/explorer...kirdi/page/25/)



-"Funerals of Muktele man", dagger, Far North Cameroon - Mandara, 1968 (http://www.quaibranly.fr/fr/explorer...ktele/page/11/)



-"Ironmonger stall", newly made daggers, Far North Cameroon - Mayo Sava - Mayo Plata, november 1982 (http://www.quaibranly.fr/fr/explorer...iller/page/44/)

Mercenary 24th May 2020 07:39 PM

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Odisha. 1920s. Head teacher :)

kronckew 24th May 2020 07:50 PM

Must be a rough school if he carries a talwar...

cyten 29th May 2020 06:27 PM

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Ossetian man equipped with Miquelet rifle, Shashka, LARGEST Kindjal I've ever seen, and holstered pistol

cyten 29th May 2020 06:36 PM

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Caucasian Crimean War Veterans with the usual Kindjal & Miquelet as well as M1843 Luttich Carbine and what looks like some kind of Artillery Foot Sword

kronckew 29th May 2020 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cyten
Ossetian man equipped with Miquelet rifle, Shashka, LARGEST Kindjal I've ever seen, and holstered pistol

Always thought they were the descendants of the Gladius, that one is more like a spatha :D

cyten 9th June 2020 09:48 PM

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Bulgarian man with shishane and yataghan

Tim Simmons 10th June 2020 03:51 PM

French Guiana 1892
 
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Wayana. Kalina.

gp 21st June 2020 11:47 AM

Magrebi pictures
 
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enclosed some pictures from Magrebi warriors and soldiers.

kahnjar1 30th June 2020 08:18 AM

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A few more.........including a couple of the local attempt at a Space Program
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Stu

francantolin 30th June 2020 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kahnjar1
A few more.........including a couple of the local attempt at a Space Program
:mad: :eek: :eek:
Stu


Thank you for sharing these pictures !!!

I wonder why this man is so angry with his carpet ? ;) :)

gp 30th June 2020 11:07 PM

he's not a Magrebian but from the Levant. But I shall post some more pics from Magreb warriors ans soldiers, both Arab and Amazigh ;)

gp 2nd July 2020 12:57 PM

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as promised, pictures between 1900-1940 ( most around 1920) of soldiers of the Sultan but also tribesmen from the North and South who were battling the Sultan's forces as well as the French ( "tiens, voilà du boudin..." ) and Spanish who all didn't always enjoy their stay at the territory of these men ( Morocco as we know it now with its present borders, is a very young ...) and meeting these gents uninvited was no pleasure at all to say the least. The Romans already found that out very quickly...

Especially the Riffians were severe opponents not to mess with ; over 20 tribes of which the Aith Waryagher (Aith Ouariaghel) from the Nort-East Morocco and North-West Algeria were very fierce fighters. Supposedly their name means "those who do not retreat "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rif_War

gp 2nd July 2020 12:59 PM

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a few more

gp 2nd July 2020 01:00 PM

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still some 2 come...

gp 2nd July 2020 01:02 PM

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the last batch for now :)

cyten 7th March 2021 08:17 PM

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Greek with Shishane & Yataghan
Armenian with Coral studded Pala

dat_man 20th June 2021 07:46 PM

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Here are some photos from the caucasus

1- ossetians
2- circassian with pretty large kindjal and a shashka
3- men from daghistan
4- daghistani man with wife and son, he got a nice kindjal too
5- chechens

Ren Ren 11th August 2021 03:18 PM

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Central Vietnam, presumably Darlak plateau

gp 4th September 2021 09:23 PM

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next to the above pics from my Magrebian collection, a few from the most bravest and fiercest warriors : the Ait Waryaghar of the Moroccan Rif who massacred the Spanish army in the Rif and also made the French pay a very heavy price in 3 wars.

cyten 27th September 2021 04:02 PM

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Khevsur with miquelet, saber and chainmail

kronckew 27th September 2021 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cyten (Post 266471)
Khevsur with miquelet, saber and chainmail


...and a nice small buckler!


Excellent photo!

dat_man 27th September 2021 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cyten (Post 266471)
Khevsur with miquelet, saber and chainmail

There are many problems with this photo:

1- the so called "four mirrors" armour over the mail which wasn't used by khevsur as far as we are aware

2- the saber Eastern georgian not khevsur

3-the the man is georgian but not not khevsur, he is a collector from from the soviet era here is an article about him:
https://museum.ge/index.php?lang_id=...&info_id=15740

Never the less it is a nice photo and shows some nice original weapons, but not a proper representation of khevsurs

ariel 28th September 2021 03:49 AM

There is one staged photo after another, in the one above there are multiple ethnic inconsistencies, the two pics of Ossetian men on this page seem to be wearing the same kindjal.
And there is even one picture from Odisha ( Orissa), but.... no khanjarli.

Studio photographs were heavily staged, and their validity as reflecting reality is severely compromised.

Ian 29th September 2021 02:39 AM

dat_man,

Thanks for your information about that "fake" photo.


Ariel,

These photos are what they are. I think we are all aware of some of the limitations of studio portraits. It's good to be reminded from time to time. Let's move on ...

cyten 1st October 2021 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dat_man (Post 266481)
the man is georgian but not not khevsur, he is a collector from from the soviet era here is an article about him:
https://museum.ge/index.php?lang_id=...&info_id=15740

very interesting, thanks for the article

Ren Ren 20th October 2021 07:23 PM

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Probably Annam.
It's a shame that the background is retouched.


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