A Kindjal or a Qamas?

sabertasche · 24th February 2006, 06:38 AM

Hi all, I would welcome your thoughts on this blade. The basics first. Is it a kindjal or a qamas? This blade is only 16.5 cm long, overall length is 26 cm. Blade width is 2.3 cm. The blade is blued in the blood groves (poor terminology - what is the correct term?). There is also some silver inlay which I hope someone can translate for me.

My thoughts are that this is a boys kindjal, from the Balkans, circa 1900. I don't see too many of these in Canada and this is the smallest one I've seen. I didn't get a deal on it but the quality is there and it was too cute to pass up

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Enjoy and I look fwrd to you comments,

Greg

Yannis · 24th February 2006, 10:40 AM

The right word for grove is fuller (I learn english in this forum

). I don’t think that it is a balkan qama. It looks more eastern to me. If the hilt of knife is small it could be made for a child. Or it could be from India (not this one). I have never hold a tulvar with normal hilt.

Dom · 24th February 2006, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yannis

..snip.. It looks more eastern to me...snip..

eastern why not, but not arabic

once more the 2 words engraved aren't arabic language
old turkish ? farsi ?

any way, if translated in latin letters that give;
"rala fichra, or rala michra"

according with a "point" missed or not

à +

Dom

sabertasche · 25th February 2006, 08:03 PM

Hi guys, still trying to get the forums' interpretation as to what this is, as well as a translation of the writing. Is this a standard size or is it a boys kindjal?

I'm hoping for:
1.Country of origin
2. What it is
3. Translation of the blade inscription
4. Age
5. Cultural context

Any help is welcome

Greg

Rivkin · 25th February 2006, 11:07 PM

I am no specialist, especially when it comes to Iran, but imho it's Iran, 19th century, more on a boys' size scale. Provinse most likely Fars or north, Azerbajan ??.

sabertasche · 9th March 2006, 07:05 AM

Just thought I's ask again if someone can translate this Kindjal blade for me.

Thanks,

Greg

24th February 2006, 06:38 AM	#1
sabertasche Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 149	A Kindjal or a Qamas? Hi all, I would welcome your thoughts on this blade. The basics first. Is it a kindjal or a qamas? This blade is only 16.5 cm long, overall length is 26 cm. Blade width is 2.3 cm. The blade is blued in the blood groves (poor terminology - what is the correct term?). There is also some silver inlay which I hope someone can translate for me. My thoughts are that this is a boys kindjal, from the Balkans, circa 1900. I don't see too many of these in Canada and this is the smallest one I've seen. I didn't get a deal on it but the quality is there and it was too cute to pass up . Enjoy and I look fwrd to you comments, Greg Attached Images Last edited by sabertasche; 24th February 2006 at 07:34 AM.

25th February 2006, 08:03 PM	#4
sabertasche Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 149	Help Needed Hi guys, still trying to get the forums' interpretation as to what this is, as well as a translation of the writing. Is this a standard size or is it a boys kindjal? I'm hoping for: 1.Country of origin 2. What it is 3. Translation of the blade inscription 4. Age 5. Cultural context Any help is welcome Greg

9th March 2006, 07:05 AM	#6
sabertasche Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 149	Translation Needed Just thought I's ask again if someone can translate this Kindjal blade for me. Thanks, Greg

24th February 2006, 10:40 AM	#2
Yannis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 479	The right word for grove is fuller (I learn english in this forum ). I don’t think that it is a balkan qama. It looks more eastern to me. If the hilt of knife is small it could be made for a child. Or it could be from India (not this one). I have never hold a tulvar with normal hilt.

25th February 2006, 11:07 PM	#5
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	I am no specialist, especially when it comes to Iran, but imho it's Iran, 19th century, more on a boys' size scale. Provinse most likely Fars or north, Azerbajan ??.