Another barong restore project

[Sajen]

Just won this barong, I think that it is a junggayan datu barong with some badly damage. The silver/glue damage is in my opinion doable, the most mayor task will be the restauration of the beak of the pommel. Am I correct that the pommel is most probably from kamagong wood? And I am also correct that it is a datu barong? Not good to seen on the pictures from the seller but there are also ivory (?) inlays at the top from the pommel.

All comments and tips for the restauration are very welcome.

[Battara]

Congratulations Detlef!

Yes this is datu class, and yes this is made of kamagong wood. However, it maybe ivory or maybe bone (parts look of bone, but not sure). Top tail seems broken off as well. And of course some of the chased silver is missing.

Lots of work but good luck!

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Battara

Congratulations Detlef!

Yes this is datu class, and yes this is made of kamagong wood. However, it maybe ivory or maybe bone (parts look of bone, but not sure). Top tail seems broken off as well. And of course some of the chased silver is missing.

Lots of work but good luck!

Thank you Jose. Good possible that there is also missing a small part of the top tail, not good to see on the seller pictures and I hope that not and the pommel is just not so elongated like your one (hope that you don't mind to post your picture again). I am not to sure that there is something from the chased silver is missing, it seems that the third silver band is just turned around, think you mean this place!?

Regards,
Detlef

[Battara]

The top band is half there and a later plain replacement is there.

The top tail piece, I would have to have a closer look.

Also your punt needs a little work as well.........

And no problem with posting one of my pictures, since it is already on record here anyway. Our postings are here for everyone.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Battara

The top band is half there and a later plain replacement is there.

The top tail piece, I would have to have a closer look.

Also your punt needs a little work as well.........

And no problem with posting one of my pictures, since it is already on record here anyway. Our postings are here for everyone.

Hello Jose,

yes, you are correct, the top band is a later replacement and badly glued in place.
Will post pictures soon as it has arrived at it's destination. It will be certainly a difficult restore project but worth a try IMHO.

Regards,
Detlef

[Mytribalworld]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello Jose,

yes, you are correct, the top band is a later replacement and badly glued in place.
Will post pictures soon as it has arrived at it's destination. It will be certainly a difficult restore project but worth a try IMHO.

Regards,
Detlef

No glue is always better than the wrong glue.
But it looks restorable, use a fine medical scalpel to remove the glue .

Only restore if you are absolute sure that the piece will be better. Otherwise an original broken thing is worth more that a bad restored example.


The most difficult part is to remake the birds beak again in harmony with the lines/shape of the rest. My advice would be to make it roughly and that glue it and remodel it when its fastened to get the best result.

Arjan

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Mytribalworld

No glue is always better than the wrong glue.
But it looks restorable, use a fine medical scalpel to remove the glue .

Only restore if you are absolute sure that the piece will be better. Otherwise an original broken thing is worth more that a bad restored example.


The most difficult part is to remake the birds beak again in harmony with the lines/shape of the rest. My advice would be to make it roughly and that glue it and remodel it when its fastened to get the best result.

Arjan

Hi Arjan,

be sure that the restauration will be done very carefully. I've get not long ago a shandigan/junggayan barong where the nose is broken away long time ago and the break is well patinated, this piece I will keep in this state. I will show this barong in the next time.

Thank you for the useful tips!

Regards,
Detlef

[CharlesS]

Loads of potential with that piece Detlef! Viel Glück!

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by CharlesS

Loads of potential with that piece Detlef! Viel Glück!

Danke Charles, will post pictures from the steps of restauration.

Regards,
Detlef

[Sajen]

Have received some meaningful pictures from Robert, he have brought the silverbands in the correct position and now you can see that nothing is missing, only the upper silver band is a replacement. And Jose was correct, the top tail piece from the wood is missing. I think that the inlays are from bone and not from ivory. An other member of the forum will send me pieces of kamagong wood for the restauration, thank's again for this.

[kino]

Curious about the progress on this barung.
Any photos?

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by kino

Curious about the progress on this barung.
Any photos?

Soon as the restore progress started and it will be worth to take pictures I will post them!