I haven't seen any Santa stories yet?

Gavin Nugent · 28th December 2012, 01:59 PM

Well it was already asked about in another thread, was it too early for Christmas stories....Well Christmas has passed now and presents must surely be opened or maybe Santa didn't come this year because you were bad?

So who got what for Christmas?

I bought myself a few goodies, this display being one of them, some books and a Korean Jian.
The Barong appears to have a clear herring bone twistcore pattern...a shame the hilt and pommel has losses though....what would you do with it :-)

Gavin

Iain · 28th December 2012, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by freebooter

Well it was already asked about in another thread, was it too early for Christmas stories....Well Christmas has passed now and presents must surely be opened or maybe Santa didn't come this year because you were bad?

So who got what for Christmas?

I bought myself a few goodies, this display being one of them, some books and a Korean Jian.
The Barong appears to have a clear herring bone twistcore pattern...a shame the hilt and pommel has losses though....what would you do with it :-)

Gavin

Is that a 19th century date I see on the case label?

I've got a few things in the mail, one is tied up in customs the other two have twice been refused on an airmail flight and are back to sit with relatives in California until I figure out how to get them to Europe. Maybe I was bad this year?

Been a while since shipping was so frustrating.

Gavin Nugent · 28th December 2012, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Iain

Is that a 19th century date I see on the case label?

Oh yeah, the fine print, just scraped it in at 1898.

Gavin

Battara · 28th December 2012, 04:42 PM

Too bad about the barong but would love to see close ups of the blade.

Gavin Nugent · 28th December 2012, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Too bad about the barong but would love to see close ups of the blade.

When time permits and it gets a little conservation/preservation.

Gavin

Gavin Nugent · 29th December 2012, 11:09 AM

I guess you were all a rotten bunch and never got a visit from the fat man

Iain · 29th December 2012, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by freebooter

I guess you were all a rotten bunch and never got a visit from the fat man

Ok I'll give into the pressure, here's a teaser.

Atlantia · 29th December 2012, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by freebooter

I guess you were all a rotten bunch and never got a visit from the fat man

Yeah, he didn't need to check the naughty list twice to find us!

We had to treat ourselves!

Nice display Gav. Will you etch the blade to bring out the pattern?

Gavin Nugent · 29th December 2012, 11:51 AM

A nice find Iain, glad to see you secured it. Is it now with you? I look forward to seeing it in detail.

I am not sure what I will do Gene, take of the surface rust for sure.
What did you treat yourself to seeing as though you were on the naughty list?

Gavin

Iain · 29th December 2012, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by freebooter

A nice find Iain, glad to see you secured it. Is it now with you? I look forward to seeing it in detail.

Hi Gav, it just cleared customs. So I hope to have it in hand next week.

Battara · 29th December 2012, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by freebooter

I guess you were all a rotten bunch and never got a visit from the fat man

Hey I'm just happy to get a lump of coal!

Atlantia · 29th December 2012, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by freebooter

A nice find Iain, glad to see you secured it. Is it now with you? I look forward to seeing it in detail.

I am not sure what I will do Gene, take of the surface rust for sure.
What did you treat yourself to seeing as though you were on the naughty list?

Gavin

A nice wootz and koftgari tabarzin and a koftgari iron casket box!

A.alnakkas · 29th December 2012, 08:40 PM

Hmmm.. I got an ivory hilted Pesh kabz with a high res wootz... 4 wootz swords 2 saifs and 2 tulwars. 4 jambiyas 3 with rhino hilts. I got all these in this month.

kahnjar1 · 29th December 2012, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

Hmmm.. I got an ivory hilted Pesh kabz with a high res wootz... 4 wootz swords 2 saifs and 2 tulwars. 4 jambiyas 3 with rhino hilts. I got all these in this month.

..............so that is where Santa's sleigh broke down...........

kahnjar1 · 29th December 2012, 08:48 PM

.........but I also have to "come clean".
This old Bedouin sword arrived on Christmas Eve..........posted for discussion elsewhere.
Stu

A.alnakkas · 29th December 2012, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kahnjar1

.........but I also have to "come clean".
This old Bedouin sword arrived on Christmas Eve..........posted for discussion elsewhere.
Stu

Wow man now thats a proper restoration. Glad it went your way :-)

Gavin Nugent · 15th August 2013, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Too bad about the barong but would love to see close ups of the blade.

Battara,

It is very hard to photograph correctly when behind glass.

The blade is a triple row twist core...shame about the hilt though...I am loathe to break open this time capsule to clean these pieces and the condition suits the overall presence of the display...maybe there will be time over the Christmas holidays to give them some attention.

The Kampilan is a very elegant thing too, gentle sweeping curve and demure size would make for a very capable pirate sword.

Gavin

Maurice · 15th August 2013, 07:02 PM

i can't remember what sancta gave me!
it's too long ago to remember......

But..... A great moro display you've got there!

drac2k · 16th August 2013, 01:17 AM

Okay, I'll jump.Lately I've been finding some great deals(aren't they all),but I've been feeling a little guilty, buying all of these things for myself and nobody else! The Forum has shown me the way; what a concept "early Christmas," to be followed by "Christmas Proper!"
When I told my wife, that there were other like minded people, who shared these views on buying, she looked at me, smiled and said "that is like having an AAA group run by the pushers."
I wonder what she meant by that? Oh well, on to the next auction.............

Battara · 16th August 2013, 05:03 AM

Like the yats. (wish I still had mine

)

drac2k · 16th August 2013, 02:13 PM

I suspect you will get them back or better ones ;they are only a "bid," away .
I truly think, that for collecting these items, now will be remembered as the "Golden Age;" I can think of no time,other than the Victorian era, when so many rare items have been accessible to the collector.I think the supply will eventually dwindle, as well as restrictions on the shipping and laws restricting ownership

Amuk Murugul · 17th August 2013, 12:14 AM

Hullo everybody!

Quote:

Originally Posted by drac2k

Okay, I'll jump.Lately I've been finding some great deals(aren't they all),but I've been feeling a little guilty, buying all of these things for myself and nobody else! .....

Congrats on some nice acquisitions!

I particularly like the Soenda implement.
Will you please tell me the length of the blade?
Is the handle wood?
Finally, is the cutting edge concave on both sides (so the cross-section is like the hull on a traditional boat)? Or is it straight on both sides (making a V-like cross-section)?
Thanks.

Best,

drac2k · 17th August 2013, 01:27 AM

Thanks,
I really like that one myself!The handle is wood, the blade is approx. 22 inches long and the sides are straight, making a "V," shape.The blade is only 7/8" at it's widest, but it is a heavy blade,almost 3/8" thick at the base, tapering off to less than 1/16" at the tip.

Amuk Murugul · 17th August 2013, 07:12 AM

Hullo everybody!

Quote:

Originally Posted by drac2k

Thanks,
I really like that one myself!The handle is wood, the blade is approx. 22 inches long and the sides are straight, making a "V," shape.The blade is only 7/8" at it's widest, but it is a heavy blade,almost 3/8" thick at the base, tapering off to less than 1/16" at the tip.

Thanks for your prompt reply.
From your photo, the blade width appears to taper slightly towards the hilt.
So, all in all, I'd call the piece: Gobang Sintoeng Perah Boehaja.
It is principally a sabre, but can function as a chopper.
Comes from the eastern part of traditional Soenda lands (i.e. western half of Java), e.g. the territory of the former Sultanate of Tjirebon.

Best,

drac2k · 17th August 2013, 02:25 PM

Thank you for the great information that you provided me;I am making a tag and labeling it now.

Gavin Nugent · 18th August 2013, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maurice

i can't remember what sancta gave me!
it's too long ago to remember......

But..... A great moro display you've got there!

Hi Maurice.

I sure it was something nice :-)

Thanks! I hope to spend some time on the provenance a little later in the year.

Gavin

Gavin Nugent · 9th August 2015, 01:02 PM

Better late than never....

28th December 2012, 01:59 PM	#1
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	I haven't seen any Santa stories yet? Well it was already asked about in another thread, was it too early for Christmas stories....Well Christmas has passed now and presents must surely be opened or maybe Santa didn't come this year because you were bad? So who got what for Christmas? I bought myself a few goodies, this display being one of them, some books and a Korean Jian. The Barong appears to have a clear herring bone twistcore pattern...a shame the hilt and pommel has losses though....what would you do with it :-) Gavin Attached Images

29th December 2012, 11:51 AM	#9
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	A nice find Iain, glad to see you secured it. Is it now with you? I look forward to seeing it in detail. I am not sure what I will do Gene, take of the surface rust for sure. What did you treat yourself to seeing as though you were on the naughty list? Gavin Last edited by freebooter; 29th December 2012 at 01:11 PM.

29th December 2012, 08:48 PM	#15
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,739	.........but I also have to "come clean". This old Bedouin sword arrived on Christmas Eve..........posted for discussion elsewhere. Stu Attached Images

16th August 2013, 01:17 AM	#19
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,232	Pre-Christmas gifts??? Okay, I'll jump.Lately I've been finding some great deals(aren't they all),but I've been feeling a little guilty, buying all of these things for myself and nobody else! The Forum has shown me the way; what a concept "early Christmas," to be followed by "Christmas Proper!" When I told my wife, that there were other like minded people, who shared these views on buying, she looked at me, smiled and said "that is like having an AAA group run by the pushers." I wonder what she meant by that? Oh well, on to the next auction............. Attached Images

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Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Better late than never.... Attached Images

28th December 2012, 04:42 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	Too bad about the barong but would love to see close ups of the blade.

29th December 2012, 11:09 AM	#6
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	I guess you were all a rotten bunch and never got a visit from the fat man

29th December 2012, 08:40 PM	#13
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	Hmmm.. I got an ivory hilted Pesh kabz with a high res wootz... 4 wootz swords 2 saifs and 2 tulwars. 4 jambiyas 3 with rhino hilts. I got all these in this month.

15th August 2013, 07:02 PM	#18
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,346	i can't remember what sancta gave me! it's too long ago to remember...... But..... A great moro display you've got there!

16th August 2013, 05:03 AM	#20
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	Like the yats. (wish I still had mine )

16th August 2013, 02:13 PM	#21
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,232	I suspect you will get them back or better ones ;they are only a "bid," away . I truly think, that for collecting these items, now will be remembered as the "Golden Age;" I can think of no time,other than the Victorian era, when so many rare items have been accessible to the collector.I think the supply will eventually dwindle, as well as restrictions on the shipping and laws restricting ownership

17th August 2013, 01:27 AM	#23
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,232	Thanks, I really like that one myself!The handle is wood, the blade is approx. 22 inches long and the sides are straight, making a "V," shape.The blade is only 7/8" at it's widest, but it is a heavy blade,almost 3/8" thick at the base, tapering off to less than 1/16" at the tip.

17th August 2013, 02:25 PM	#25
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,232	Thank you for the great information that you provided me;I am making a tag and labeling it now.