Please help me with some history of my keris.

pgouso · 4th September 2009, 03:45 AM

Hello. I am new to the forum and was directed to this website for some further information about my keris I inherited. Please enjoy the pictures and I look forward to any thoughts or history lessons you may offer.

Rick · 4th September 2009, 04:18 PM

Bump

Henk · 4th September 2009, 07:34 PM

Welcome to the forum.

This is not a keris. A keris is from indonesia. This is a Moro kris from the Philipines.
The knowledgeable members will come soon enough with their information.

The only thing I can say about your kris is that it is a nice one.

Rick · 4th September 2009, 08:16 PM

A very nice kris showing signs of genuine use and wear complete with munsala .
Nineteenth or turn of the century perhaps ?

The blade could be older than the dress, and it is not new .
I want to say Sulu.... but I'm not gonna; nope .

Looks like you need another piece (band) for the scabbard .
Are those silver ?

May we have some closeups ?

Battara · 5th September 2009, 02:54 AM

The blade could be Sulu, but the rest could be Maguindanao.

The bands could be white metal. I would put it at the late 19th century.

kai · 5th September 2009, 08:07 PM

Welcome to the forum! Could you please post dimensions of this Moro blade?

The nice blade seems from Sulu to me, too. I'd guess it might be late 19th c. or turn of the century at the latest. I especially like those one-piece asang-asang (clamp at the base of the blade) made from iron...

The metal on the fittings looks more like white metal rather than silver. Maybe the hilt and scabbard are a bit later replacements? When did this kris come into your family?

Regards,
Kai

pgouso · 6th September 2009, 08:00 PM

Thank you for your insight. I must apologize as I am unfamiliar with all the terminology and tribe references so as I learn I hope to gain a better knowledge of this blade and others like it.
I came to posses the kris when a family memeber passed 5 years ago. That family member was in the military and travelled extensively. I'm sure the kris was aquired while stationed in the philipines at some point. I have posted some close up pics as requested. I do apologize for my poor quality photo taking abilities but I think they will show the finer details of the blade and the scabbard.

pgouso · 6th September 2009, 08:04 PM

And here are some more close ups with measurements.

4th September 2009, 03:45 AM	#1
pgouso Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3	Please help me with some history of my kris. Hello. I am new to the forum and was directed to this website for some further information about my keris I inherited. Please enjoy the pictures and I look forward to any thoughts or history lessons you may offer. Attached Images Last edited by Rick; 4th September 2009 at 03:09 PM.

6th September 2009, 08:00 PM	#7
pgouso Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3	Thank you for your insight. I must apologize as I am unfamiliar with all the terminology and tribe references so as I learn I hope to gain a better knowledge of this blade and others like it. I came to posses the kris when a family memeber passed 5 years ago. That family member was in the military and travelled extensively. I'm sure the kris was aquired while stationed in the philipines at some point. I have posted some close up pics as requested. I do apologize for my poor quality photo taking abilities but I think they will show the finer details of the blade and the scabbard. Attached Images

6th September 2009, 08:04 PM	#8
pgouso Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3	And here are some more close ups with measurements. Attached Images

4th September 2009, 04:18 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Bump

4th September 2009, 07:34 PM	#3
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Welcome to the forum. This is not a keris. A keris is from indonesia. This is a Moro kris from the Philipines. The knowledgeable members will come soon enough with their information. The only thing I can say about your kris is that it is a nice one.

4th September 2009, 08:16 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	A very nice kris showing signs of genuine use and wear complete with munsala . Nineteenth or turn of the century perhaps ? The blade could be older than the dress, and it is not new . I want to say Sulu.... but I'm not gonna; nope . Looks like you need another piece (band) for the scabbard . Are those silver ? May we have some closeups ?

5th September 2009, 02:54 AM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	The blade could be Sulu, but the rest could be Maguindanao. The bands could be white metal. I would put it at the late 19th century.

5th September 2009, 08:07 PM	#6
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,254	Welcome to the forum! Could you please post dimensions of this Moro blade? The nice blade seems from Sulu to me, too. I'd guess it might be late 19th c. or turn of the century at the latest. I especially like those one-piece asang-asang (clamp at the base of the blade) made from iron... The metal on the fittings looks more like white metal rather than silver. Maybe the hilt and scabbard are a bit later replacements? When did this kris come into your family? Regards, Kai