spears of vietnam for comment

weapons 27 · 15th November 2014, 08:08 AM

Here are 11 spears of the Moi of vietnam people collected by edmond grethen Chief Inspector of the native guard in Indochina. reduced in france in 1920/1930 by its femmme.
I just bought has his grandson...
some pictures before cleaning and after
It measures between 2.30 m and 2.70 long
irons for Spears between 30 and 68 cm
the Poles are carved for some they are hardwood and bamboo, some are brass before iron wire..
bamboo is a braiding

weapons 27 · 15th November 2014, 08:12 AM

spears cleaned

Tim Simmons · 15th November 2014, 08:26 AM

Very nice.

Iain · 15th November 2014, 09:20 AM

Beautiful set. Thanks for sharing.

Sajen · 15th November 2014, 09:55 AM

Very nice and great to have them with provenance!

CharlesS · 15th November 2014, 12:21 PM

These are the first spears from that area I have seen. These are lovely and elegant examples and you have done a nice job of cleaning them without over doing it!

Outstanding!

Gavin Nugent · 15th November 2014, 12:39 PM

Beautiful to view cleaned and displayed, thank you.

Gavin

spiral · 15th November 2014, 02:56 PM

An excellent & unusually specific collection of rare provinced pieces!

Thanks for sharing, they look great!

spiral

Andrew · 15th November 2014, 03:11 PM

Outstanding. Many thanks for sharing.

Very rarely seen examples, all in exceptional condition!

Ian · 16th November 2014, 04:48 AM

Excellent collection of very uncommon spears.

The asymmetrical spear head (fourth from the top of those mounted on the wall) seems to stand out from the rest in terms of style, and it particularly caught my eye because I have a very similar example that comes from the Naga people of Assam in NE India.

Ian.

Nathaniel · 16th November 2014, 05:25 AM

Congratulations Weapons 27,

Fantastic grouping...rare, and in great condition....love seeing the full length polearms....and the unique blade types. The display looks great! Love seeing things I haven't seen! Thanks for sharing!

colin henshaw · 16th November 2014, 06:43 PM

Great collection - thanks for posting !

Ian · 16th November 2014, 06:52 PM

On further looking into the Moi people, it appears that moi was a pejorative Vietnamese term meaning "savage" and was applied to various tribal groups in the central and southern Vietnamese highlands. The French referred to them as Montagnard, a generic term for mountain people, and more recently they have been called Degar.

Attached below is an etching from 1883 of two men labeled Types of Moi. The one on the left has a large mak resting on his shoulder and the one on the right has a spear similar to several shown above.

Ian

estcrh · 16th November 2014, 07:04 PM

Thanks for sharing your collection, there are not many examples of these online.

asomotif · 16th November 2014, 08:31 PM

Thank you for sharing.

Interesting area. complete new to me. I always stuck in Indonesia ocassionally Africa.

It makes an impressive display due to the lentgth and the rather large number of spears.

Do you have daylight close ups of the metal winding of the shafts ?

Best regards,
Willem

trenchwarfare · 17th November 2014, 02:17 AM

Only three words come to mind... WOW!!!

weapons 27 · 17th November 2014, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asomotif

Thank you for sharing.

Interesting area. complete new to me. I always stuck in Indonesia ocassionally Africa.

It makes an impressive display due to the lentgth and the rather large number of spears.

Do you have daylight close ups of the metal winding of the shafts ?

Best regards,
Willem

hi willem
Here are the photos of Spears Sockets
and the bamboo

15th November 2014, 08:08 AM	#1
weapons 27 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 462	spears of vietnam for comment Here are 11 spears of the Moi of vietnam people collected by edmond grethen Chief Inspector of the native guard in Indochina. reduced in france in 1920/1930 by its femmme. I just bought has his grandson... some pictures before cleaning and after It measures between 2.30 m and 2.70 long irons for Spears between 30 and 68 cm the Poles are carved for some they are hardwood and bamboo, some are brass before iron wire.. bamboo is a braiding Attached Images

15th November 2014, 08:12 AM	#2
weapons 27 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 462	spears cleaned Attached Images

16th November 2014, 06:52 PM	#13
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,197	On further looking into the Moi people, it appears that moi was a pejorative Vietnamese term meaning "savage" and was applied to various tribal groups in the central and southern Vietnamese highlands. The French referred to them as Montagnard, a generic term for mountain people, and more recently they have been called Degar. Attached below is an etching from 1883 of two men labeled Types of Moi. The one on the left has a large mak resting on his shoulder and the one on the right has a spear similar to several shown above. Ian Attached Images

15th November 2014, 08:26 AM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	Very nice.

15th November 2014, 09:20 AM	#4
Iain Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Olomouc Posts: 1,693	Beautiful set. Thanks for sharing.

15th November 2014, 09:55 AM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,769	Very nice and great to have them with provenance!

15th November 2014, 12:21 PM	#6
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	These are the first spears from that area I have seen. These are lovely and elegant examples and you have done a nice job of cleaning them without over doing it! Outstanding!

15th November 2014, 12:39 PM	#7
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Beautiful to view cleaned and displayed, thank you. Gavin

15th November 2014, 02:56 PM	#8
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	An excellent & unusually specific collection of rare provinced pieces! Thanks for sharing, they look great! spiral

15th November 2014, 03:11 PM	#9
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	Outstanding. Many thanks for sharing. Very rarely seen examples, all in exceptional condition!

16th November 2014, 04:48 AM	#10
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,197	Excellent collection of very uncommon spears. The asymmetrical spear head (fourth from the top of those mounted on the wall) seems to stand out from the rest in terms of style, and it particularly caught my eye because I have a very similar example that comes from the Naga people of Assam in NE India. Ian.

16th November 2014, 05:25 AM	#11
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	Congratulations Weapons 27, Fantastic grouping...rare, and in great condition....love seeing the full length polearms....and the unique blade types. The display looks great! Love seeing things I haven't seen! Thanks for sharing!

16th November 2014, 06:43 PM	#12
colin henshaw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,430	Great collection - thanks for posting !

16th November 2014, 07:04 PM	#14
estcrh Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: USA Posts: 1,497	Thanks for sharing your collection, there are not many examples of these online.

16th November 2014, 08:31 PM	#15
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,224	Thank you for sharing. Interesting area. complete new to me. I always stuck in Indonesia ocassionally Africa. It makes an impressive display due to the lentgth and the rather large number of spears. Do you have daylight close ups of the metal winding of the shafts ? Best regards, Willem

17th November 2014, 02:17 AM	#16
trenchwarfare Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 385	Only three words come to mind... WOW!!!