African sword ID

Redsabre · 20th January 2009, 11:31 PM

I recently purchased this sword from ebay, it has not arrived yet but the seller had good pictures of it. Also the seller listed it as possibly Ngbandi or Yakoma but I do not have the expertise to distinguish. Help in identifying it will be greatly appreciated.

http://i3.ebayimg.com/03/i/001/1b/60/a236_3.JPG
http://i12.ebayimg.com/01/i/001/1b/60/a13b_3.JPG
http://i4.ebayimg.com/04/i/001/1b/60/a2ec_3.JPG
http://i8.ebayimg.com/05/i/001/1b/60/a36b_3.JPG
http://i21.ebayimg.com/07/i/001/1b/60/a0c7_3.JPG

Lew · 21st January 2009, 04:46 PM

Who was the seller??

Tim Simmons · 21st January 2009, 06:10 PM

Looks nice. This is the only info I have but the French and Belgian members have very good reference. This info is from an inexpensive pbk "Armes traditionnelles d'Afrique {dagues, poignards, glaives, epees, tranchet et couperets} Where it is said that these are varried forms of knife from Ngbandi, Yakoma, Ngombe, Doko, pretty much what your seller said. I like it when there are maps to help info.

Redsabre · 22nd January 2009, 01:04 AM

I can not thank you enough Tim Simmons, that was very helpful.

to LOUIEBLADES, the seller was mapico1.

Lew · 22nd January 2009, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redsabre

I can not thank you enough Tim Simmons, that was very helpful.

to LOUIEBLADES, the seller was mapico1.

Redsabre

If Danny aka Mapico tells you its Ngbandi or Yakoma than you can bank on that description.

You did well.

Congrats

Lew

Freddy · 22nd January 2009, 06:43 PM

Yep. Rely on Mapico...he knows his stuff.

Redsabre · 22nd January 2009, 08:12 PM

Thanks for the advice.

Luc LEFEBVRE · 22nd January 2009, 08:58 PM

I had this sword in hand, I think Ngombe / Doko, more than Ngbandi / Yakoma, because of the specific engravings and signature.
We can see this sort of decoration on Ngombe / Doko execution knife also.
But, we are in the same area, I'm going to search in my books
Luc

Luc LEFEBVRE · 22nd January 2009, 09:10 PM

Ngombe Doko in "Beauté Fatale"
Luc

Luc LEFEBVRE · 22nd January 2009, 09:15 PM

Ngbandi in "African Weapons"
Luc

Tim Simmons · 22nd January 2009, 09:29 PM

Voila!

Luc LEFEBVRE · 22nd January 2009, 09:39 PM

Look at these engravings on Ngombe Doko execution knives, they are very similar to the one on the sword.
Luc

Lew · 22nd January 2009, 09:59 PM

A Ngbandi blade with a Ngombe hilt? Could be there was intertribal trading between the two groups?

Lew

Redsabre · 25th January 2009, 01:08 AM

Very nice observations Luc LEFEBVRE, thanks for all the information.

20th January 2009, 11:31 PM	#1
Redsabre Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: California, USA Posts: 7	African sword ID I recently purchased this sword from ebay, it has not arrived yet but the seller had good pictures of it. Also the seller listed it as possibly Ngbandi or Yakoma but I do not have the expertise to distinguish. Help in identifying it will be greatly appreciated. http://i3.ebayimg.com/03/i/001/1b/60/a236_3.JPG http://i12.ebayimg.com/01/i/001/1b/60/a13b_3.JPG http://i4.ebayimg.com/04/i/001/1b/60/a2ec_3.JPG http://i8.ebayimg.com/05/i/001/1b/60/a36b_3.JPG http://i21.ebayimg.com/07/i/001/1b/60/a0c7_3.JPG

21st January 2009, 06:10 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Looks nice. This is the only info I have but the French and Belgian members have very good reference. This info is from an inexpensive pbk "Armes traditionnelles d'Afrique {dagues, poignards, glaives, epees, tranchet et couperets} Where it is said that these are varried forms of knife from Ngbandi, Yakoma, Ngombe, Doko, pretty much what your seller said. I like it when there are maps to help info. Attached Images

22nd January 2009, 09:10 PM	#9
Luc LEFEBVRE Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: France Posts: 472	Ngombe Doko in "Beauté Fatale" Luc Attached Images

22nd January 2009, 09:15 PM	#10
Luc LEFEBVRE Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: France Posts: 472	Ngbandi in "African Weapons" Luc Attached Images

22nd January 2009, 09:39 PM	#12
Luc LEFEBVRE Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: France Posts: 472	Look at these engravings on Ngombe Doko execution knives, they are very similar to the one on the sword. Luc Attached Images

21st January 2009, 04:46 PM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Who was the seller??

22nd January 2009, 01:04 AM	#4
Redsabre Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: California, USA Posts: 7	I can not thank you enough Tim Simmons, that was very helpful. to LOUIEBLADES, the seller was mapico1.

22nd January 2009, 06:43 PM	#6
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	Yep. Rely on Mapico...he knows his stuff.

22nd January 2009, 08:12 PM	#7
Redsabre Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: California, USA Posts: 7	Thanks for the advice.

22nd January 2009, 08:58 PM	#8
Luc LEFEBVRE Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: France Posts: 472	I had this sword in hand, I think Ngombe / Doko, more than Ngbandi / Yakoma, because of the specific engravings and signature. We can see this sort of decoration on Ngombe / Doko execution knife also. But, we are in the same area, I'm going to search in my books Luc

22nd January 2009, 09:29 PM	#11
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Voila!

22nd January 2009, 09:59 PM	#13
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	A Ngbandi blade with a Ngombe hilt? Could be there was intertribal trading between the two groups? Lew

25th January 2009, 01:08 AM	#14
Redsabre Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: California, USA Posts: 7	Very nice observations Luc LEFEBVRE, thanks for all the information.