![]() |
![]() |
#1 |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,731
|
![]()
Hello dear members,
I got this little dagger in a trade with a friend not long ago. I think that it is Sumatran in origin but could also be Malay, I am a little bit unsure. Handle and scabbard are from wood and it's delicately carved, the blade is laminated and shows a batu lapak motif at the base. 26,5 cm inside scabbard, 23 cm without, blade 16 cm, 6 mm thick at the spine behind the bolster. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#2 |
Member
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 6,855
|
![]()
Nice.
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#3 |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,731
|
![]()
Hello Alan,
Thanks and I agree! ![]() Regards, Detlef |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#4 |
Member
Join Date: Feb 2023
Location: Amsterdam
Posts: 94
|
![]()
Nice one Detlef,
this one has a similar feel to it : https://www.liveauctioneers.com/pric...-from-sumatra/ |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#5 |
Member
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 999
|
![]()
Love that blade.
What does “batu lapak” mean? Thanks for sharing |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#6 | |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,731
|
![]() Quote:
The dagger in the link is a sewar while I can't name the knife in question! ![]() Regards, Detlef |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#7 |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,731
|
![]()
Hello Albert,
Batu lapak is called the curl pamor at the base of the blade. "Batu" means stone/rock but I sadly can't translate "lapak". Regards, Detlef |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#8 |
Keris forum moderator
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 7,100
|
![]()
Nice one! Love the batu lapak. Always a favourite pamor motif of mine.
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#9 |
Member
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 6,855
|
![]()
The word "lapak" is Javanese, it carries the meaning of "saddle" in the Ngoko level of this language; the Krama Inggil level is "kambil".
I am not inclined to give this motif shown as Batu Lapak, BL is not a full circle, it is like this pamor but has a part of the circle of swirls cut off to produce a flat base that ends at the blade base. In many, if not all, examples of BL that I have seen the BL has been produced by the pesi being welded to the body of the blade. I would give this present pamor as Kul Buntet, this pamor is not encountered as often as BL, it is regarded by most people as being a more esoterically powerful pamor and of higher status. The esoteric value of KB is taken to be the same as BL, but more powerful, these values are that those who carry this pamor will become powerful & rich, they will have a great number of beautiful women & they will live in a peaceful home. It is a royal pamor and should be treated as having the nature of a pusaka. All this esoteric value relates to KB being located in a Javanese keris, I do not know the esoteric value if it is found in anything other than a Javanese keris. So --- congratulations Detlef, you might be about to become incredibly wealthy and have more women than you know what to do with. Last edited by A. G. Maisey; 28th February 2024 at 01:53 AM. Reason: typo |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#10 | |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,731
|
![]() Quote:
I strongly doubt that I will become very wealthy in my life and I have my reasonable doubt that I am able to handle at my age more as one woman! ![]() ![]() And thank you for the translation, now I understand the meaning, the stone saddle for the pesi! ![]() And I should have known the difference between "Batu Lapak" and "Kul Buntet". The first and second picture show a "BL" and the third some sort of "KB"! Regards, Detlef Last edited by Sajen; 27th February 2024 at 08:36 PM. Reason: Spelling |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#11 |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,731
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#12 | ||
Member
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Leiden, NL
Posts: 477
|
![]() Quote:
Quote:
|
||
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#13 |
Vikingsword Staff
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: The Aussie Bush
Posts: 4,167
|
![]()
Thanks for posting the pictures werecow.
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
|
|