SPEAR for ID / Indonesia ? but where

asomotif · 2nd September 2009, 03:54 PM

I bought this spear sad enough without any details except probably Indonesia.

Total length is 180 cms.
The wooden shaft is well patinated and has decorations on the top 20 cms and the bottom 20 cms.
Also there is a number, so it has been part of some kind of collection.

Any ideas to which island / tribe we can attribute this one ?

Thanks,
Willem

Lew · 2nd September 2009, 04:22 PM

Looks Igorot to me.

Lew

Battara · 2nd September 2009, 04:59 PM

Not Igorot, but perhaps Nias.

asomotif · 2nd September 2009, 05:09 PM

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perhaps Nias.

I also thought about Nias. The point is a form that you see on Nias.
But the shaft is really thin (1,5 cms) which I have not seen with Nias spears
And than there is the decoration in the wood on the top and the bottom.

Lew · 2nd September 2009, 06:04 PM

Here are some Nias spears.

VVV · 2nd September 2009, 07:03 PM

Willem,

It looks like Tanimbar, or the neighbouring region, to me.
Check the Leiden picture archive for resembling spears.

Michael

Sajen · 2nd September 2009, 11:18 PM

Hi Willem,

I also would guess Moluccas, but can be also from the north. But this is just a feeling. BTW very nice and interesting spear.

Regards,

Detlef

Mytribalworld · 3rd September 2009, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by VVV

Willem,

It looks like Tanimbar, or the neighbouring region, to me.
Check the Leiden picture archive for resembling spears.

Michael

I also vote for Tanimbar, here the piece from Leiden.

The collection number looks the most of collectionnumbers from the museum in Rotterdam ( starting with 26-) maybe it ex from their collection.

Arjan

asomotif · 3rd September 2009, 01:27 PM

Thanks all for your help !!!

The picture from RMV is indeed very similar.

Best regards,
Willem

Mytribalworld · 3rd September 2009, 08:52 PM

here another old plate.....

asomotif · 4th September 2009, 07:19 AM

Arjan,

Thanks for this interesting plate ! (is it from a book in your bookshop ? )

Now lets hope I find a shield like the one on this plate.

Maurice · 4th September 2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

Arjan,

Thanks for this interesting plate ! (is it from a book in your bookshop ? )

Now lets hope I find a shield like the one on this plate.

And if you are very lucky you might find a boat as depictured on the plate!

Mytribalworld · 4th September 2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

Arjan,

Now lets hope I find a shield like the one on this plate.

maybe in miniature,soon....

2nd September 2009, 03:54 PM	#1
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	SPEAR for ID / Indonesia ? but where I bought this spear sad enough without any details except probably Indonesia. Total length is 180 cms. The wooden shaft is well patinated and has decorations on the top 20 cms and the bottom 20 cms. Also there is a number, so it has been part of some kind of collection. Any ideas to which island / tribe we can attribute this one ? Thanks, Willem Attached Images

2nd September 2009, 06:04 PM	#5
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Here are some Nias spears. Attached Images

3rd September 2009, 08:52 PM	#10
Mytribalworld Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 400	here another old plate..... Attached Images

2nd September 2009, 04:22 PM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Looks Igorot to me. Lew

2nd September 2009, 04:59 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,229	Not Igorot, but perhaps Nias.

2nd September 2009, 07:03 PM	#6
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Willem, It looks like Tanimbar, or the neighbouring region, to me. Check the Leiden picture archive for resembling spears. Michael

2nd September 2009, 11:18 PM	#7
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,797	Hi Willem, I also would guess Moluccas, but can be also from the north. But this is just a feeling. BTW very nice and interesting spear. Regards, Detlef

3rd September 2009, 01:27 PM	#9
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	Thanks all for your help !!! The picture from RMV is indeed very similar. Best regards, Willem

4th September 2009, 07:19 AM	#11
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	Arjan, Thanks for this interesting plate ! (is it from a book in your bookshop ? ) Now lets hope I find a shield like the one on this plate.