3rd March 2023, 03:47 PM | #1 |
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New pieces from the collection of General Shockley
New additions from the collection of General M.A.W. Shockley!!
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3rd March 2023, 03:50 PM | #2 |
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Providence from his estate
By visiting the auction house I was able to obtain direct photographic evidence.
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3rd March 2023, 05:10 PM | #3 |
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Gosh they are nice. Did you or was there any issues about the ivory? I am sure others would be interested to know.
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3rd March 2023, 05:59 PM | #4 |
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What a haul. Congrats.
Where’s the Kris with the Garuda(?) hilt. He must’ve placed those ray skins on the handles. |
3rd March 2023, 08:21 PM | #5 |
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Congratulations. I saw that auction, but no money to bid. I love not only the krises but also the Tagalog piece with the carved horn and horn/silver scabbard (I was going to go for that one ).
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3rd March 2023, 09:21 PM | #6 |
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I assume this auction took place in the USA and it seems that this portion of the collection has remained there. Generally these issues don't arise unless the items in question are crossing international borders.
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3rd March 2023, 09:22 PM | #7 |
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Brilliant additions to any collection. Congratulations!
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3rd March 2023, 09:29 PM | #8 |
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Congratulations!!! Great collection, the horn and silver bolo is : !!!!
Thanks for sharing Carlos |
3rd March 2023, 11:18 PM | #9 |
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Congratulations!
I got the one I wanted, you pushed me far with it though... you'll know the one... if your research reveals its actual origins, please do write to me. With thanks Gavin |
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Next time we should talk first!!! I was able to see your Garuda in person and it is magnificent! I believe the back portion of the hilt is solid cast metal. It has the serious potential to be gold!!! There’s no tarnish on the cast portion and it doesn’t appear to have been cleaned. I think you will be very happy!! You also have direct providence on the Kris!! See these pictures. Ron will also be very happy with the axe!!! I should have looked at that piece more closely… it’s seriously special also. Last edited by SanibelSwassa; 3rd March 2023 at 11:48 PM. Reason: Additional info… |
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3rd March 2023, 11:39 PM | #12 |
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It is my fist Luzon piece and is the most ornate piece I’ve seen and in incredible shape. The carving on the scabbard is so next level… I honestly don’t know how that could be done.
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Intra-State on pieces this old there aren’t any issues where I live. DO NOT attempt anything like this with international purchases!! I recently had piece go through that process from Italy and it took several months… none where Ivory and it was still a really difficult process and cost significantly more to get the items to the US. Hope that helps!! |
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4th March 2023, 03:54 AM | #15 |
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Am I mad, or am I seeing sharkskin on the hilts of some of those kris?
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4th March 2023, 05:40 AM | #16 |
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Ray skin I suspect... perhaps considered more durable that resin coated cord when at sea and that ray skin offered a very positive non slip grip in the hand when wet... could simply be intended for a practical nature...
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4th March 2023, 08:02 AM | #17 |
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I ask about the Ivory as most if not all auction rooms in the UK will not deal with ivory items and I thought that was spreading internationally. Glad you had no problem.
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read what I wrote here http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=23029 Within the US 3 states have signed a similar act banning trade across state lines. |
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5th March 2023, 07:57 PM | #20 |
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Stunning! Congrats for your new acquisitions.
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5th March 2023, 08:28 PM | #21 |
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Poor quality image, but an example of the Bolo type from the collection. Met Museum.
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6th March 2023, 01:03 AM | #22 |
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Just finished a first round of basic clean up.
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6th March 2023, 03:05 AM | #23 |
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Second clean up completed… might need some translation assistance.
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6th March 2023, 03:35 AM | #24 |
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Great clean up! Great twist core! Never seen Jawi on the baka-baka before, nor have I seen hilt bands like that! Silver and swassa - VERY nice.
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6th March 2023, 11:57 PM | #26 |
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Oh I've seen and made swassa bands before. But the patterns on the swassa bands and their style - no.
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7th March 2023, 01:03 AM | #27 |
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Another kris fresh from basic clean up!! The Ray skin wrap appears to have been a later addition after the kris was collected. It is solid and feels good in the hand… still very tight. The twist core is visible but not deeply etched. There are marks on one of the baca that may be decorative or talismanic.
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7th March 2023, 01:20 AM | #28 |
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I'm curious about the length of the large sundang. Also would like your cleaning superpowers.
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7th March 2023, 02:04 AM | #29 | |
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The closest I've seen to that motif in swassa is arrangements of 3 half moons to make the triangle shape, not yet the V shape with circle in the center... |
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7th March 2023, 02:11 AM | #30 |
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I will get you a better pic as the motif is impressive and varied in the hilt stack… all of which are still tight and true.
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