Ethno Shot gun Pistol

Tim Simmons · 1st April 2016, 10:15 AM

While in the process of acquiring a club from the Amazon Guajajara people and doing investigation into the people and habitat, something I do with any item I collect. I came upon a link with this really cool photograph. I like the bare metal, the rude chunky fashioning and the pistol grip. A shot range blaster, an assault pistol for raiding jungle camps. I would love to have it except it would get you banged up for 4 years in the UK

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http://avax.news/pictures/177025

Will add the club to amazon thread when I have it.

kahnjar1 · 1st April 2016, 10:39 AM

Send it to NZ. We can own these with the right licence......

Helleri · 6th April 2016, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kahnjar1

Send it to NZ. We can own these with the right licence......

Wow you need a license? Here (California) we can own black powder weapons without so much as a background check. I think the only requirement is being 18+ years old. I mean you can't walk around with them (unless transporting gold. And even then probably not the best idea). But on your property, place of legal residence, in your vehicle (if stowed safely), and at a range, it's no issue. shotguns are about as common as a .22 rifle here.

Tim Simmons · 6th April 2016, 03:43 PM

I know nothing about guns really but to my eyes the only bit not home made or radically changed is the barrel.

colin henshaw · 6th April 2016, 04:06 PM

Sort of reminds me of the Lancaster "howdah" pistol. Was available
with 2 or 4 barrels and up to .577 calibre, lead bullets. The ultimate man-stopper !

blue lander · 6th April 2016, 05:04 PM

Here's a similar concept, an ethno shotgun from Indonesia or the Philippines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFDeh9QsbTI

(skip ahead to around the 1 minute mark)

He uses match heads instead of gunpowder.

estcrh · 6th April 2016, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by blue lander

Here's a similar concept, an ethno shotgun from Indonesia or the Philippines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFDeh9QsbTI

(skip ahead to around the 1 minute mark)

He uses match heads instead of gunpowder.

Very interesting and dangerous looking as well.

Rick · 6th April 2016, 06:45 PM

A veteran of the last century holds a Moro fabricated slam fire shotgun.

Philip · 6th April 2016, 10:56 PM

Having grown up in Hawaii, we had servicemen passing through since the SpanAm War and over the years a lot of ethno weapons from the Philippines made it to our shores. Most of it was knives, central and norther islands, but there were some guns like this. A guy I knew had a small collection of them. Amazing variety, there's no limit to human ingenuity. Gas pipes were the usual choice for barrels. The most primitive type was a muzzle loader, ignited by the shooter's cigarette (I believe Stone's GLOSSARY...OF ARMS AND ARMOR has a picture of one). Others, like the ones on this thread, were breechloaders of one kind or another. Nails or bolts served as firing pins. There were sliding breechblocks and tip-open actions, the better ones had cocking mechanisms with triggers and spring-driven hammers that worked pretty well. Considering the materials and loose tolerances, I always wondered who was in greater danger -- target or shooter.

Then, in the early-mid 60s, GIs coming back from Vietnam brought some interesting home-made VC guns. Mostly a tad more sophisticated than the early Philippine items, but still looking awfully rickety. The post museum at Schofield Barracks had a nice assortment on display years ago, and if you go to the Military Museum in Hanoi, they have several showcases full of them. If there wasn't so much supervision in the metals shop class I had to take in jr. high school, my buddies and I would have cranked out something like these. In fact, we used to trade sketches of various designs during lunch hour!

Rick · 7th April 2016, 01:31 AM

Fast forward to 2016.
1911 Colt clones pouring out of the same areas.

Roland_M · 7th April 2016, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by colin henshaw

The ultimate man-stopper !

Do you mean the man before or behind this pistol?
This is a deadly weapon, the question is for whom?

kahnjar1 · 7th April 2016, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Roland_M

Do you mean the man before or behind this pistol?
This is a deadly weapon, the question is for whom?

Good point!! The poor guy in the pic above looks terrified!!!!

1st April 2016, 10:15 AM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	Ethno Shot gun Pistol While in the process of acquiring a club from the Amazon Guajajara people and doing investigation into the people and habitat, something I do with any item I collect. I came upon a link with this really cool photograph. I like the bare metal, the rude chunky fashioning and the pistol grip. A shot range blaster, an assault pistol for raiding jungle camps. I would love to have it except it would get you banged up for 4 years in the UK . http://avax.news/pictures/177025 Will add the club to amazon thread when I have it. Attached Images

6th April 2016, 04:06 PM	#5
colin henshaw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,430	Sort of reminds me of the Lancaster "howdah" pistol. Was available with 2 or 4 barrels and up to .577 calibre, lead bullets. The ultimate man-stopper ! Attached Images

6th April 2016, 06:45 PM	#8
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,290	A veteran of the last century holds a Moro fabricated slam fire shotgun. Attached Images

6th April 2016, 10:56 PM	#9
Philip Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: California Posts: 1,036	I'd hate to be the monkey standing in front of that thing! Having grown up in Hawaii, we had servicemen passing through since the SpanAm War and over the years a lot of ethno weapons from the Philippines made it to our shores. Most of it was knives, central and norther islands, but there were some guns like this. A guy I knew had a small collection of them. Amazing variety, there's no limit to human ingenuity. Gas pipes were the usual choice for barrels. The most primitive type was a muzzle loader, ignited by the shooter's cigarette (I believe Stone's GLOSSARY...OF ARMS AND ARMOR has a picture of one). Others, like the ones on this thread, were breechloaders of one kind or another. Nails or bolts served as firing pins. There were sliding breechblocks and tip-open actions, the better ones had cocking mechanisms with triggers and spring-driven hammers that worked pretty well. Considering the materials and loose tolerances, I always wondered who was in greater danger -- target or shooter. Then, in the early-mid 60s, GIs coming back from Vietnam brought some interesting home-made VC guns. Mostly a tad more sophisticated than the early Philippine items, but still looking awfully rickety. The post museum at Schofield Barracks had a nice assortment on display years ago, and if you go to the Military Museum in Hanoi, they have several showcases full of them. If there wasn't so much supervision in the metals shop class I had to take in jr. high school, my buddies and I would have cranked out something like these. In fact, we used to trade sketches of various designs during lunch hour!

1st April 2016, 10:39 AM	#2
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,739	Send it to NZ. We can own these with the right licence......

6th April 2016, 03:43 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	I know nothing about guns really but to my eyes the only bit not home made or radically changed is the barrel.

6th April 2016, 05:04 PM	#6
blue lander Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 456	Here's a similar concept, an ethno shotgun from Indonesia or the Philippines https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFDeh9QsbTI (skip ahead to around the 1 minute mark) He uses match heads instead of gunpowder.

7th April 2016, 01:31 AM	#10
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,290	Fast forward to 2016. 1911 Colt clones pouring out of the same areas.