Pulwar with inscription, can anyone translate?

Jens Nordlunde · 13th October 2006, 02:49 PM

The pulwar has a inscription on the blade, can anyone help with a translation?

Jens Nordlunde · 13th October 2006, 02:55 PM

..and the inscription.

sabertasche · 15th October 2006, 05:06 AM

Can I ask what the little square thingy is as well?

G

Jens Nordlunde · 15th October 2006, 09:40 AM

The Buduh (can be spelled in different ways) is a talisman, which is supposed to protect the owner of the sword and make sure he is victorious. It can be seen with four, six or nine squares, but four squares are most common. In each square is a number, representing a letter. The use of the Buduh, as we know it now, is very old, some say it goes back to around 1300. In the first quarter if 1200 al-Buni tells about a Buduh, but he does not give any description of it. It is seldom, if ever, seen alone, always together with some other inscription. (Buduh – A Talisman, by Torben W. Flindt, 1968).

ham · 15th October 2006, 10:11 PM

I have heard it pronounced Baduh in Saudi but then that may be dialectal. The reason for the equal subdivisions with these marks is that each bloc is supposed to contain a different numeral or character (Arabic characters also have a numeric value.) These are arranged so that whether added from side to side or top to bottom, they sum the same. Hence the baduh is considered to have talismanic porperties.

Ham

B.I · 15th October 2006, 11:34 PM

another interesting note, is that haider ali incorporated his name into the baduh, forming his own talismatic square. seemed to have work, given his success in the south!

Jens Nordlunde · 16th October 2006, 09:34 PM

It seems, according to Die Orientalische Sammlung Henri Moser, Charlottenfels, Bern, 1955, Switzerland. Page 102 #57 that the sword has a Buduh, but no numbers and no letters. The blade is signed by Assad ‘Ullah.
On page 101 the Bduh (as it is spelled) is explained. It seemed to have been used on letters also, under the address, to ensure the safe arrival of the letter.

The thread has however come a bit off track - can anyone translate the chartouche?

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Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	..and the inscription. Attached Images

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Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	It seems, according to Die Orientalische Sammlung Henri Moser, Charlottenfels, Bern, 1955, Switzerland. Page 102 #57 that the sword has a Buduh, but no numbers and no letters. The blade is signed by Assad ‘Ullah. On page 101 the Bduh (as it is spelled) is explained. It seemed to have been used on letters also, under the address, to ensure the safe arrival of the letter. The thread has however come a bit off track - can anyone translate the chartouche? Last edited by Jens Nordlunde; 16th October 2006 at 09:50 PM.

15th October 2006, 05:06 AM	#3
sabertasche Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 149	Can I ask what the little square thingy is as well? G

15th October 2006, 09:40 AM	#4
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	The Buduh (can be spelled in different ways) is a talisman, which is supposed to protect the owner of the sword and make sure he is victorious. It can be seen with four, six or nine squares, but four squares are most common. In each square is a number, representing a letter. The use of the Buduh, as we know it now, is very old, some say it goes back to around 1300. In the first quarter if 1200 al-Buni tells about a Buduh, but he does not give any description of it. It is seldom, if ever, seen alone, always together with some other inscription. (Buduh – A Talisman, by Torben W. Flindt, 1968).

15th October 2006, 10:11 PM	#5
ham Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 190	I have heard it pronounced Baduh in Saudi but then that may be dialectal. The reason for the equal subdivisions with these marks is that each bloc is supposed to contain a different numeral or character (Arabic characters also have a numeric value.) These are arranged so that whether added from side to side or top to bottom, they sum the same. Hence the baduh is considered to have talismanic porperties. Ham

15th October 2006, 11:34 PM	#6
B.I Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 485	another interesting note, is that haider ali incorporated his name into the baduh, forming his own talismatic square. seemed to have work, given his success in the south!