origin of this spear?

danny1976 · 2nd November 2011, 05:43 PM

Hello there !

I did get this spear in a swap deal , but is there someone that can point me in the right direction for the origin of this one ?

I already searched in the database of the R.M.V here in Holland but I did.t find a clear match..

The length is 2.15 m

I have another one , i post it in a different post later.
Sorry for the bad photo,s , I will try to make better one,s this week.

Indianajones · 2nd November 2011, 10:03 PM

Hello Danny, my first thoughts went to Batak, Indonesia as the brass part with those protuding knobs remind me of those long/large brass Batakpipes. This type of spearpoint is used all the way to South Philippines.
Thogh guess you thought of it being Batak aswell . . . .as you searched in the RMV collection, not?

danny1976 · 2nd November 2011, 11:38 PM

Hello Indianajones ,

Thanks for your answer , good guess that Batak did cross my mind also
but a friend collector pointed me in the direction of Jambi ?

But when I look on rmv I cant find a clear photo with the protruding knobs.

Albert · 3rd November 2011, 01:29 PM

If you look at:
http://www.rmv.nl/collections/
and then fill in: 1239-244
you will find a spear with a similar brass part (Sumatra, Toba Batak).

danny1976 · 3rd November 2011, 04:51 PM

Albert thank you !

Yes it has the similar bras part, so it is probably from the same area.

Sajen · 3rd November 2011, 07:26 PM

Hi Danny,

very nice spear! Thank you for sharing.

Regards,

Detlef

Ferguson · 4th November 2011, 09:31 AM

I have seen one on Ebay, attributed to Batak.

Steve

Battara · 4th November 2011, 08:02 PM

I have seen the "balls" on the bottom of the ferrule as being Batak.

Rick · 4th November 2011, 08:05 PM

Okay, I'm going to ask a stupid question (I do this a lot); has the point the appearance of being reworked ?

<ducks for cover>

Battara · 4th November 2011, 09:27 PM

Looks that way doesn't it?

danny1976 · 8th November 2011, 12:03 AM

Hi Rick and Battara ,

Sorry for my late reply .

Yes I think also that the point is reshaped a time ago .

regards,

Danny

2nd November 2011, 05:43 PM	#1
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	origin of this spear? Hello there ! I did get this spear in a swap deal , but is there someone that can point me in the right direction for the origin of this one ? I already searched in the database of the R.M.V here in Holland but I did.t find a clear match.. The length is 2.15 m I have another one , i post it in a different post later. Sorry for the bad photo,s , I will try to make better one,s this week. Attached Images

3rd November 2011, 01:29 PM	#4
Albert Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 194	Spear in RMV collection If you look at: http://www.rmv.nl/collections/ and then fill in: 1239-244 you will find a spear with a similar brass part (Sumatra, Toba Batak). Last edited by Albert; 3rd November 2011 at 05:18 PM.

2nd November 2011, 10:03 PM	#2
Indianajones Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 180	Hello Danny, my first thoughts went to Batak, Indonesia as the brass part with those protuding knobs remind me of those long/large brass Batakpipes. This type of spearpoint is used all the way to South Philippines. Thogh guess you thought of it being Batak aswell . . . .as you searched in the RMV collection, not?

2nd November 2011, 11:38 PM	#3
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	Hello Indianajones , Thanks for your answer , good guess that Batak did cross my mind also but a friend collector pointed me in the direction of Jambi ? But when I look on rmv I cant find a clear photo with the protruding knobs.

3rd November 2011, 04:51 PM	#5
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	Albert thank you ! Yes it has the similar bras part, so it is probably from the same area.

3rd November 2011, 07:26 PM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,769	Hi Danny, very nice spear! Thank you for sharing. Regards, Detlef

4th November 2011, 09:31 AM	#7
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	I have seen one on Ebay, attributed to Batak. Steve

4th November 2011, 08:02 PM	#8
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	I have seen the "balls" on the bottom of the ferrule as being Batak.

4th November 2011, 08:05 PM	#9
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,291	Okay, I'm going to ask a stupid question (I do this a lot); has the point the appearance of being reworked ? <ducks for cover>

4th November 2011, 09:27 PM	#10
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	Looks that way doesn't it?

8th November 2011, 12:03 AM	#11
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	Hi Rick and Battara , Sorry for my late reply . Yes I think also that the point is reshaped a time ago . regards, Danny