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Hi all,
Just posted the 100th album on my Keris, Kris and Indonesian small blades catalogue project. http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...bum.php&page=1 No 100 is this "archaic" kris with twisted core. Michael |
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A fabulous kris for your 100th example of a superb collection!
CONGRATULATIONS!!! Michael, I am very pleased to see a collector of your stature focussing on these magnificent swords. I am coordinating a group of collectors compiling information and pieces for a book about Moro swords and weapons that I may edit, photograph and publish. One of our several focus points is the blade of the sword. Kinds of laminations, temper lines, talismanic designs and form of blade. We would also want to bring in the history, art, culture, anthropology, political structure, languages and religion(s) -- as I do not think that a study of the weapons would be appropriate without these background factors. This would be a collaborative effort with several established collectors who have expressed an interest in such a project from a standpoint of writing articles and contributing examples. Though we are still very much in a preliminary stage, I would welcome your input. I greatly respect your knowledge and research abilities both to find and compile information as well as collecting incredible examples of these weapons. I will explain more in private email. Any other collectors are also welcome! PM me. Warmest regards, Bill Marsh Last edited by Bill Marsh; 10th February 2007 at 11:59 AM. |
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Now THAT is fine and beautiful thing. Well done.
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FANTASTIC example
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Thanks all,
I just found another Keris here in Stockholm that I couldn't resist so now itīs 101. Michael |
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Hi Michael an very nice one that one from Stockholm and this one also .
Are you not working anymore that you have so much time to search ?? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ben |
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Beautiful piece - the pamor is superb! (I think I have a similar pamor on one of my older kris.
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Actually the blades look me up by themeselves nowadays. The Stockholm Kris phoned me up yesterday and asked if it could join the rest of the group. ![]() Battara, please share some pictures of it with the rest of us. Michael |
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Congrats Michael,
That's an awesome kris! Gorgeous blade and also the pommel seems to be really neat... It's the first one with worn through sogokan that I encountered. Speaks for its age and quality carvings, I guess. The blade tip is very interesting: Within the inlay final there is a kinda-rhomboidal depression right in front of where the twist core pattern stops - I wonder wether something (swaasa/silver plaque?) may have been attached here originally (it doesn't look like a delamination of the twist core which should be thicker anyway). I assume that this looks alike on both sides, doesn't it? BTW, what's the link for #101? Please pass my phone number on to the groupies if you happen to get too many calls... ![]() ![]() Regards, Kai |
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Hi Kai,
I had a close look at the tip of the panel but I don't see any trace of other material. And it doesn't look the same at the reverse side? But in case I misunderstood you I have attached two pictures of each side. Kind regards, Michael |
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naga basuraki, from your vast experience and knowledge, what can you tell me about this kris? age, provenence, any other special features. Last edited by LabanTayo; 12th February 2007 at 05:51 PM. |
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Where are you guys getting these magnificent Kris??????
After seeing these, my wife thought I was going through the change (what hot flashes)! ![]() LabanTayo... that looks like an extremely old Kris... maybe someday I will be lucky ![]() |
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Hi Shelly, Suggest that you make a new post. We need to keep this thread focussed on VVV beautiful kris. I will be happy to give you my limited opinion. You may know that I have been collecting this kind of kris less than a year. You are very kind in your compliments, and coming from a collector of your stature, this is high praise, but I have neither vast experience, nor knowledge of kris. My vast experience and knowledge, such as it is, is in investment real estate. I can certainly give you better answers in this arena, but I do know a little about your piece. Suggest that you make a new post and lets continue this discussion there. My very warmest regards, Bill |
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maybe the Moderators can start the thread for me.
i am very interested to read what you have to say about my kris. thanks, |
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![]() ![]() ![]() But really think that we should keep this thread focussed on VVV. I am sure that you understand. |
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Totally understand.
BTW, Nice kris Michael. ![]() |
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Thanks Shelley,
I like yours too. Seems to have at least one V... ![]() Michael |
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If you really want to discuss your Kris, Shelley, feel free to start a new thread yourself. You don't need a mod's assistance to do so. ![]() |
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Hello Michael,
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Still, I do wonder how this happened - a forging flaw at such a prominent place seems weird but what is it supposed to be? Regards, Kai |
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no need to start a new thread. bill has graciously answered my question via email. |
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Incredibly beautiful.
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![]() ![]() Congrats, Lew Last edited by LOUIEBLADES; 14th February 2007 at 02:29 PM. |
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VVV -
when I better etch the blade I may then post my similar kris. Louis - Other tribes have made twist core. Twist core seems to be on older Moro pieces than later ones. I have a Bagobo sword that has 2 rows of twist core "turkish ribbon" on it. |
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Here's a little 'twist'
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Nice Rick!
It would be great to also see other examples as a reference? Michael |
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![]() What's interesting about this one is that there are 4 twist bars incorporated; they join where the 'arrow point' is found on swords such as these and yet there is no sculpting or heavy etching done to bring these features out .... ![]() A kind of 'stealth' construction with no showiness . ![]() |
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