Talibon for comment

Sajen · 23rd September 2011, 08:09 PM

Hello dear members,

just win this Talibon by ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/320760661450...84.m1439.l2649, a more simple one but by a good price and nearly complete, only one band from the scabbard is missing.
I think and hope that it is not one from this souvenir pieces from the second world war time you can see many times. What do you think about it's age and origin?

Thank you very much in advance,

Detlef

Sajen · 23rd September 2011, 08:17 PM

Maybe I should add that the blade is 30,5 cm long and 4 mm thick.

KuKulzA28 · 23rd September 2011, 08:18 PM

I was going to bid on this! But I snoozed... I guess if you snooze you lose!

Sajen, just a note, even if it is from the WWII era, I've used several vintage talibon and they tend to be decent steel and sharpen easily. Not the highest quality, but decent... they're pretty useful in the kitchen

I'm not expert, so they will speak with more authority when they see this and comment, but I my gut feeling is that it's definitely 20th century.

Battara · 23rd September 2011, 09:30 PM

I'm thinking it is a really good WWII or slightly earlier example. Not a tourist piece however. They still use these, though without the ornamental carvings. I base this on the size of the blade and the quality of the wood carvings. Nice example, congratulations!

Sajen · 23rd September 2011, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KuKulzA28

I was going to bid on this! But I snoozed... I guess if you snooze you lose!

Sajen, just a note, even if it is from the WWII era, I've used several vintage talibon and they tend to be decent steel and sharpen easily. Not the highest quality, but decent... they're pretty useful in the kitchen

I'm not expert, so they will speak with more authority when they see this and comment, but I my gut feeling is that it's definitely 20th century.

Thank you very much for comment. And I think byself that it is maybe from the 30s or 40s last century. But my hope is that it is one what was used and not was made for US soldiers.

Regards,

Detlef

Sajen · 23rd September 2011, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

I'm thinking it is a really good WWII or slightly earlier example. Not a tourist piece however. They still use these, though without the ornamental carvings. I base this on the size of the blade and the quality of the wood carvings. Nice example, congratulations!

Thank you Jose, exactly this was what I think and hope. Any suggestions of the origin?

Regards,

Detlef

Battara · 24th September 2011, 03:53 AM

It is from the Visayan Islands in the middle of the Philippines. Perhaps from Cebu (part of the Visayan Islands).

Sajen · 24th September 2011, 12:33 PM

Thank you Jose.

Lew · 24th September 2011, 06:15 PM

I agree with Jose a better than average piece WW2 era. Reminds me of this one that I picked up years ago. Of course the hilt is quite different but the age and quality are about the same more or less except for the more elaborate carving on Sajens example.

Sajen · 24th September 2011, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lew

I agree with Jose a better than average piece WW2 era. Reminds me of this one that I picked up years ago. Of course the hilt is quite different but the age and quality are about the same more or less except for the more elaborate carving on Sajens example.

Hello Lew,

thank you for comment.

Yours is nice as well, I like the good using patina.

Regards,

Detlef

Sajen · 14th October 2011, 09:33 PM

Have received it and like it!

No early tourist stuff.

harimauhk · 16th October 2011, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

It is from the Visayan Islands in the middle of the Philippines. Perhaps from Cebu (part of the Visayan Islands).

Hi Battara,

The term talibung is not used in Cebu, but it is used in Leyte and Samar. I would put money on this piece having been made in Leyte or Samar. In Cebu, similar knives are called plamingko (like flamenco in Spanish).

harimauhk · 16th October 2011, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

It is from the Visayan Islands in the middle of the Philippines. Perhaps from Cebu (part of the Visayan Islands).

Hi Battara,

The term talibung is not used in Cebu, but it is used in Leyte and Samar. I would put money on this piece having been made in Leyte or Samar. In Cebu, similar knives are called plamingko (like flamenco in Spanish).

This may have been a WWII (or earlier) bringback, but it wasn't made specifically for a tourist to take home, which makes it a lot more attractive!

Battara · 16th October 2011, 05:46 AM

Oh well, close.

Thank you for the correction.

harimauhk · 16th October 2011, 06:13 AM

No problem! I always learn a heck of a lot on these forums from those far more knowledgeable than me, so it's nice to finally be able to give something back!

Sajen · 16th October 2011, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harimauhk

Hi Battara,

The term talibung is not used in Cebu, but it is used in Leyte and Samar. I would put money on this piece having been made in Leyte or Samar. In Cebu, similar knives are called plamingko (like flamenco in Spanish).

This may have been a WWII (or earlier) bringback, but it wasn't made specifically for a tourist to take home, which makes it a lot more attractive!

Hello Harimauhk,

thank you very much for this information.

Regards,

Detlef

Sajen · 2nd November 2011, 10:25 PM

Just win a second one for low money and think that it is from the same time.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/290624410625...84.m1497.l2648

What do you think?

23rd September 2011, 08:09 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,771	Talibon for comment Hello dear members, just win this Talibon by ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/320760661450...84.m1439.l2649, a more simple one but by a good price and nearly complete, only one band from the scabbard is missing. I think and hope that it is not one from this souvenir pieces from the second world war time you can see many times. What do you think about it's age and origin? Thank you very much in advance, Detlef Attached Images

24th September 2011, 06:15 PM	#9
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	I agree with Jose a better than average piece WW2 era. Reminds me of this one that I picked up years ago. Of course the hilt is quite different but the age and quality are about the same more or less except for the more elaborate carving on Sajens example. Attached Images

2nd November 2011, 10:25 PM	#17
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,771	Just win a second one for low money and think that it is from the same time. http://www.ebay.com/itm/290624410625...84.m1497.l2648 What do you think? Attached Images

23rd September 2011, 08:17 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,771	Maybe I should add that the blade is 30,5 cm long and 4 mm thick.

23rd September 2011, 08:18 PM	#3
KuKulzA28 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: between work and sleep Posts: 731	I was going to bid on this! But I snoozed... I guess if you snooze you lose! Sajen, just a note, even if it is from the WWII era, I've used several vintage talibon and they tend to be decent steel and sharpen easily. Not the highest quality, but decent... they're pretty useful in the kitchen I'm not expert, so they will speak with more authority when they see this and comment, but I my gut feeling is that it's definitely 20th century.

23rd September 2011, 09:30 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	I'm thinking it is a really good WWII or slightly earlier example. Not a tourist piece however. They still use these, though without the ornamental carvings. I base this on the size of the blade and the quality of the wood carvings. Nice example, congratulations!

24th September 2011, 03:53 AM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	It is from the Visayan Islands in the middle of the Philippines. Perhaps from Cebu (part of the Visayan Islands).

24th September 2011, 12:33 PM	#8
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,771	Thank you Jose.

14th October 2011, 09:33 PM	#11
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,771	Have received it and like it! No early tourist stuff.

16th October 2011, 05:46 AM	#14
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	Oh well, close. Thank you for the correction.

16th October 2011, 06:13 AM	#15
harimauhk Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 88	No problem! I always learn a heck of a lot on these forums from those far more knowledgeable than me, so it's nice to finally be able to give something back!