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Old 6th March 2016, 02:17 PM   #1
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Can anyone help me locate the region of origin of this kindjal, approximately its age and translate the inscription on the blade?
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Old 6th March 2016, 06:30 PM   #2
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My guess it is Turkish. Is the blade pattern-welded?
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Old 6th March 2016, 07:34 PM   #3
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I confirm pure Turkish for the hilt and scabbard, the blade I don't know...
The date in Gregorian calendar is 1804.
Some members will translate the Arabic text, I hope.
Congrats its a cool stuff
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Old 10th March 2016, 08:45 PM   #4
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Thanks for your feedback.
The blade is not pattern-welded and not of great workmanship. I am actually surprised it dates from 1804, I was under the impression it was more recent.
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I am actually surprised it dates from 1804, I was under the impression it was more recent.
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Just because it has a date inscribed does not necessarily mean that the date is accurate, a date could be added at any time.
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Old 17th March 2016, 10:26 PM   #6
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Just because it has a date inscribed does not necessarily mean that the date is accurate, a date could be added at any time.
I also have some suspicions regarding the age of the blade. While I do not read Arabic, It appears to me that half of the engravings, towards the tip, are pure decoration not writing, while the writing is in a different style. So I suspect it was added later.

Also the scabbard looks suspicious and I am inclined to say that it is just a tourist souvenir of very recent production. But the photos might be misleading and I might be wrong.

Can you identify the white metal of the scabbard?

Can you post a more detailed photo of the tip of the scabbard?

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