MARKINGS ON A KLEWANG /CHOPPER BLADE

asomotif · 6th November 2009, 12:26 AM

I found this Klewang blade together with some indonesian stuff (keris' + golok scabbard)

I don't know the blade style, but near the ricasso it has a very typical stamp.
Nor the blade nor the markings ring a bell to me.
Any help / suggestions ?

Emanuel · 6th November 2009, 12:31 AM

Looks a lot like a dha blade. 44" long though?? that's a huge blade

Emanuel

asomotif · 6th November 2009, 12:36 AM

oops... the ruler is in cms. 44 cms = approx 17 inch

Emanuel · 6th November 2009, 12:39 AM

My mistake...

it's really narrow and tiny then

Rick · 6th November 2009, 01:56 AM

Dha blade possibly then ?

Beveled spine ..

asomotif · 6th November 2009, 08:10 AM

Dha ? Could be, you get easily tricked when there is no handle.

And is it normal for Dha's to have markings ?

mohd · 6th November 2009, 01:25 PM

The fact is that you're from Netherland and at one time for a few hundred years Indonesia was under Netherland.

Quote:

Originally Posted by asomotif

I found this Klewang blade together with some indonesian stuff (keris' + golok scabbard)

Asomotif, how did you find those stuff? Is there any other item found among those stuff that might be originated from some other place other than Indonesia? Is that bundled together stuff belong to your ancestor that was in Indonesia during the colonial time?

Your answers to those above questions might give some light to our forum members to decide the origin and the type of that blade.

One thing I noticed that the marking on the blade looks like a christian cross symbol.

Mohd.

Rick · 6th November 2009, 05:46 PM

Still betting that it's a Dha blade .

Could have wound up where it was collected through trade .

fearn · 6th November 2009, 05:51 PM

I'd say dha too. 17" (45 cm) is well within the size range.

asomotif · 6th November 2009, 06:02 PM

Quote:

The fact is that you're from Netherland and at one time for a few hundred years Indonesia was under Netherland.

Dea Mohd,

Yes, i am aware of our past.
So basically a lot of indonesian sword types are more or less known to me.
I bought it via a local website without any reference to previous owners/history.

I must say that when you bump into small "collections" from our colonial past, it is quite common to find Moroccan jambiya knifes and other african weapons.
Simply becasue often ships sailed around africa or later via Suez, but then stopped in Casablanca for various reasons.
Everything collected on its way than is labelled by the family as " Indonesian" . Or "Indie" as we called it before 1948.

All together I see a lot of Dha voters.

Interesting.

Gavin Nugent · 7th November 2009, 01:37 AM

It is a Burmese Dha blade. Nice to see markings on it.

Gav

Rick · 7th November 2009, 02:10 AM

And, it is a mark that is new to this forum I believe .

Paging the Dhafia !!

Don Mark ?

Don Andrew ??

Puff ???

David · 7th November 2009, 02:43 AM

The marking looks more like a double dorje to me than a Christian cross, which would put it more firmly in "Dha Land".

RSWORD · 7th November 2009, 03:38 AM

I agree that this is a dha blade. The tip style is one of them Hua's.

In looking at it closely, I also tend to think it is a blade with respectable age.

Rick · 7th November 2009, 04:04 AM

Also very exciting to find a new (to us ?) blade stamp on this form .

One more for the database .

Gavin Nugent · 7th November 2009, 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

The marking looks more like a double dorje to me than a Christian cross, which would put it more firmly in "Dha Land".

Nice representaion David, I would agree.

Gav

asomotif · 7th November 2009, 01:37 PM

Great info / That is really great on this forum.
Lot of knowledge and a lot of active members.

I will probably move the blade to swap because I am not collecting Dha's and considering the age and the rare marking there will be much better collections for it to fit in

Thanks,
Willem

Nathaniel · 7th November 2009, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

The marking looks more like a double dorje to me than a Christian cross, which would put it more firmly in "Dha Land".

I agree with others this one looks like a Dha blade...and the cross looks more like a double dorgie found in Tibetan Buddhism....I've never seen that makers mark before...very interesting.

Nathaniel · 7th November 2009, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Also very exciting to find a new (to us ?) blade stamp on this form .

One more for the database .

I agree...http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=8651

6th November 2009, 12:26 AM	#1
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	MARKINGS ON A KLEWANG /CHOPPER BLADE I found this Klewang blade together with some indonesian stuff (keris' + golok scabbard) I don't know the blade style, but near the ricasso it has a very typical stamp. Nor the blade nor the markings ring a bell to me. Any help / suggestions ? Attached Images

7th November 2009, 01:37 AM	#11
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	A Dha It is a Burmese Dha blade. Nice to see markings on it. Gav

7th November 2009, 02:43 AM	#13
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,127	The marking looks more like a double dorje to me than a Christian cross, which would put it more firmly in "Dha Land". Attached Images

6th November 2009, 12:31 AM	#2
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Looks a lot like a dha blade. 44" long though?? that's a huge blade Emanuel

6th November 2009, 12:36 AM	#3
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	oops... the ruler is in cms. 44 cms = approx 17 inch

6th November 2009, 12:39 AM	#4
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	My mistake... it's really narrow and tiny then

6th November 2009, 01:56 AM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Dha blade possibly then ? Beveled spine ..

6th November 2009, 08:10 AM	#6
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	Dha ? Could be, you get easily tricked when there is no handle. And is it normal for Dha's to have markings ?

6th November 2009, 05:46 PM	#8
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Still betting that it's a Dha blade . Could have wound up where it was collected through trade .

6th November 2009, 05:51 PM	#9
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	I'd say dha too. 17" (45 cm) is well within the size range.

7th November 2009, 02:10 AM	#12
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	And, it is a mark that is new to this forum I believe . Paging the Dhafia !! Don Mark ? Don Andrew ?? Puff ???

7th November 2009, 03:38 AM	#14
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,084	I agree that this is a dha blade. The tip style is one of them Hua's. In looking at it closely, I also tend to think it is a blade with respectable age.

7th November 2009, 04:04 AM	#15
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Also very exciting to find a new (to us ?) blade stamp on this form . One more for the database .

7th November 2009, 01:37 PM	#17
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	Great info / That is really great on this forum. Lot of knowledge and a lot of active members. I will probably move the blade to swap because I am not collecting Dha's and considering the age and the rare marking there will be much better collections for it to fit in Thanks, Willem