pala or kilij ?

stelio · 24th November 2011, 09:54 PM

Hello. find this sword in my grandfather's house and would like to know what sword and by whom century. THANK YOU STELIOS

sisi_d · 25th November 2011, 11:25 AM

Hallo Stelios ,

Can you photograph the handle? Are there any signs or markings on the blade?

stelio · 25th November 2011, 07:42 PM

new photos:

stelio · 26th November 2011, 03:22 PM

Hello sisi d.no letters, only to have is some projects around the handle over to silver. will try to take pictures. Thank you. Stelios

A.alnakkas · 27th November 2011, 08:22 AM

A very interesting sword. Strange that no one have put any info about it.

I'll bump it now and see what happens :-)

stelio · 27th November 2011, 12:09 PM

Hello and thank you for the help. I have searched in GREECE and the internet but I can not find something similar. The length is 80 cm and 3 cm in width. I am sending you a photo with the design of the handle. thank you very much Stelios

eftihis · 27th November 2011, 07:36 PM

Yeia sou Stelio!
The sword has what it seems like an early ottoman kilij blade. It is not a pala, since pala's has shorter and wider blades. It is mounted under arabic influence which is evident in the type of swordguard and also at the ending of the handle.
However the handle looks a bit starange, i cannot understand the material, is it painted?
If the sword belonged to your grandfather from inheritance from older generations, it could be a booty sword from the 1820s from the army of Ibraim pasha that came from Egypt with his army to subdue the Greek revolution. Its army was western in organisation and appearence, but for sure some officers would carry their own commisioned swords.

stelio · 27th November 2011, 10:46 PM

hello eftihi! I know that my family fighting in the revolution of 1821 but also how early the Orloff. I know it was together with Captain Giatrako the capture of tripoltsas. The handle is rather wooden internally from outside is leather and studs of silver. around the handle has plans of plants on a silver, if you pay attention to the Last photo I though t is not clearly seen there. leather and is the case, although in the beginning and end are the bronze. together with the sword I found 2 battle axes completely different. Thank you stelios

24th November 2011, 09:54 PM	#1
stelio Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 97	pala or kilij ? Hello. find this sword in my grandfather's house and would like to know what sword and by whom century. THANK YOU STELIOS Attached Images

25th November 2011, 07:42 PM	#3
stelio Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 97	pala or kilij new photos: Attached Images

27th November 2011, 12:09 PM	#6
stelio Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 97	pala , kili or shamshir? Hello and thank you for the help. I have searched in GREECE and the internet but I can not find something similar. The length is 80 cm and 3 cm in width. I am sending you a photo with the design of the handle. thank you very much Stelios Attached Images

25th November 2011, 11:25 AM	#2
sisi_d Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 6	Hallo Stelios , Can you photograph the handle? Are there any signs or markings on the blade?

26th November 2011, 03:22 PM	#4
stelio Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 97	Hello sisi d.no letters, only to have is some projects around the handle over to silver. will try to take pictures. Thank you. Stelios

27th November 2011, 08:22 AM	#5
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	A very interesting sword. Strange that no one have put any info about it. I'll bump it now and see what happens :-)

27th November 2011, 07:36 PM	#7
eftihis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chania Crete Greece Posts: 507	Yeia sou Stelio! The sword has what it seems like an early ottoman kilij blade. It is not a pala, since pala's has shorter and wider blades. It is mounted under arabic influence which is evident in the type of swordguard and also at the ending of the handle. However the handle looks a bit starange, i cannot understand the material, is it painted? If the sword belonged to your grandfather from inheritance from older generations, it could be a booty sword from the 1820s from the army of Ibraim pasha that came from Egypt with his army to subdue the Greek revolution. Its army was western in organisation and appearence, but for sure some officers would carry their own commisioned swords.

27th November 2011, 10:46 PM	#8
stelio Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 97	hello eftihi! I know that my family fighting in the revolution of 1821 but also how early the Orloff. I know it was together with Captain Giatrako the capture of tripoltsas. The handle is rather wooden internally from outside is leather and studs of silver. around the handle has plans of plants on a silver, if you pay attention to the Last photo I though t is not clearly seen there. leather and is the case, although in the beginning and end are the bronze. together with the sword I found 2 battle axes completely different. Thank you stelios