Hairy Indonesian spear for discussion

Sajen · 11th August 2013, 02:50 PM

Have get this spear and I think that it is Indonesian. The spear point is a pamor blade, the ferrule from brass and the shaft from black wood seems to be shortened. Attached are two different sorts of hair, the longer ones are brown and thicker, the short hairs are thinner and dyed red. Would like to know from where this spear coming. Could it be from Sulawesi? I am nearly sure that it isn't from Java or Bali. The spear is 124 cm with scabbard, the point is 19,5 cm without tang.
Any suggestions?

Battara · 12th August 2013, 02:08 AM

Yes I'd say Indonesian with that ferrule and blade. Not seen one with hair though......

Sajen · 12th August 2013, 03:31 AM

Thank you Jose. I think I've seen spears from Sulawesi with hairs but can't remember where.

Maurice · 12th August 2013, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Thank you Jose. I think I've seen spears from Sulawesi with hairs but can't remember where.

Yes you're right, possibly Sulawesi!

Maurice

Sajen · 12th August 2013, 01:32 PM

Thank you Maurice for confirming!

Maurice · 12th August 2013, 01:35 PM

Here two old photo's from ca 1911.

Sajen · 12th August 2013, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Maurice

Here two old photo's from ca 1911.

Thank you for posting this interesting pictures!

Maurice · 12th August 2013, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Thank you for posting this interesting pictures!

Any time Detlef! Glad you like them!

asomotif · 24th August 2013, 08:38 PM

I say Sulawesi as well based on RMV Leiden database.

I guess you missed this picture which was a little in the wrong (sumara) thread...

Best regards,
Willem

Sajen · 24th August 2013, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

I say Sulawesi as well based on RMV Leiden database.

I guess you missed this picture which was a little in the wrong (sumara) thread...

Best regards,
Willem

Hi Willem,

thank you for the picture which I missed indeed and for confirming my guess about the origin.

Regards,

Detlef

11th August 2013, 02:50 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,769	Hairy Indonesian spear for discussion Have get this spear and I think that it is Indonesian. The spear point is a pamor blade, the ferrule from brass and the shaft from black wood seems to be shortened. Attached are two different sorts of hair, the longer ones are brown and thicker, the short hairs are thinner and dyed red. Would like to know from where this spear coming. Could it be from Sulawesi? I am nearly sure that it isn't from Java or Bali. The spear is 124 cm with scabbard, the point is 19,5 cm without tang. Any suggestions? Attached Images

12th August 2013, 01:35 PM	#6
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,342	Here two old photo's from ca 1911. Attached Images

24th August 2013, 08:38 PM	#9
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,224	I say Sulawesi as well based on RMV Leiden database. I guess you missed this picture which was a little in the wrong (sumara) thread... Best regards, Willem Attached Images

12th August 2013, 02:08 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	Yes I'd say Indonesian with that ferrule and blade. Not seen one with hair though......

12th August 2013, 03:31 AM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,769	Thank you Jose. I think I've seen spears from Sulawesi with hairs but can't remember where.

12th August 2013, 01:32 PM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,769	Thank you Maurice for confirming!