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Old 24th April 2022, 11:31 AM   #1
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Hello dear members,

Here is a sword I wanted to show you,
The guard and global shape make me think of an eastern sword, a polish or cossack sword.

But I saw sewed leather scabbards and pommel like this one on german 18th swords.

The large Z stamp can fix it I hope !
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Old 24th April 2022, 09:14 PM   #2
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Hi

that´s an Austrian Füsiliersäbel (food soldier sable) M1765. Nice piece.
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Old 25th April 2022, 08:30 AM   #3
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This "Z"-mark is possibly a wolf angle what was the mark of the Solingen firm Neuhaus.

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Old 25th April 2022, 05:03 PM   #4
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Hello,
Thank's a lot for your useful reply !!

Really interesting, I read this Z "wolfAngel" mark could work as an old germanic rune protection symbol.

Is it the hilt without the hand guard that makes this sword a soldier model ?? ( and not grenadier...)

Personally, I prefer it that way , make me a little think of a shamshir or karabela shape.

I'll post other pictures when I get it !

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Old 25th April 2022, 05:07 PM   #5
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Forget this picture I found with your precious informations
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Old 25th April 2022, 05:24 PM   #6
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This are fotos of an Austrian "Fuesilier-sabre".
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Old 25th April 2022, 10:49 PM   #7
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For AHorsa,
The heraldic blason with the Z wolfsangel crampon .
Blason of a small town-village in Rhineland...
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Old 26th April 2022, 01:01 PM   #8
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Good find, BBKing. But I am pretty sure the blade doen´t come from Idar-Oberstein.


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that´s an Austrian Füsiliersäbel (food soldier sable) M1765. Nice piece.
Of course I meant "foot-soldier" not "food-soldier"
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