SPEARS FOR I.D

Royston · 27th October 2010, 10:57 AM

I have a " few " spears and apart from zulu and Masai I cannot really identify many of them.

Any suggestions on these two ? They are the 2 on the left, leaning on the chair.

Both approximately 5 ft long with the heads 14 and 15 inches.

One has a low grade silver collar with a thin head, pierced with 2 holes. The other has a brass collar and a much heavier, thick head.

Both are heavily carved as you can see.

They appear to be made out of the same wood as my Sumputan so I am guessing they are Dayak ?

Thanks
Roy

Battara · 27th October 2010, 06:41 PM

They are certainly Indonesian. The one next to them is Moro. Would you show close ups as well of that one?

Sajen · 27th October 2010, 08:11 PM

Yes, agree with Jose, certainly indonesian spears, maybe from Sumatra.

Regards,

Detlef

asomotif · 29th October 2010, 07:51 AM

Hello Roy,

Nice examples !
My feeling about the one with the brass collar is also sumatra.
I have spears with similar decorations in the wood, but the decoration continuing in the brass collar is very nice. never seen that before.

For the one with the silver collar I am not sure.
You see these silver collars also on Borneo, where it is not indigenous BTW but is an influence from abroad.

Maybe keris connaiseurs can give some clues based on the forging of the blade with the holes

It would be nice to see pictures of the other spearheads too, although they are not that elaborate, Interesting to compare them.

Best regards,
Willem

Royston · 2nd November 2010, 11:42 AM

Gentlemen,

Thanks for the information and comments.
As requested, here are some of the others.

Roy

asomotif · 4th November 2010, 01:08 AM

Here are 2 spears that are on the RMV website as "Kalimantan" = Borneo.
Looks like the one you have with the silver collar.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 26th September 2016, 05:10 PM

Whilst this is not my usual subject I thought to invest this picture where the specialists in spears may throw light upon these exhibits please..I have the key somewhere and will add it asap...

27th October 2010, 10:57 AM	#1
Royston Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Poole England Posts: 443	SPEARS FOR I.D I have a " few " spears and apart from zulu and Masai I cannot really identify many of them. Any suggestions on these two ? They are the 2 on the left, leaning on the chair. Both approximately 5 ft long with the heads 14 and 15 inches. One has a low grade silver collar with a thin head, pierced with 2 holes. The other has a brass collar and a much heavier, thick head. Both are heavily carved as you can see. They appear to be made out of the same wood as my Sumputan so I am guessing they are Dayak ? Thanks Roy Attached Images

2nd November 2010, 11:42 AM	#5
Royston Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Poole England Posts: 443	MORE SPEARS Gentlemen, Thanks for the information and comments. As requested, here are some of the others. Roy Attached Images

4th November 2010, 01:08 AM	#6
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	Here are 2 spears that are on the RMV website as "Kalimantan" = Borneo. Looks like the one you have with the silver collar. Attached Images

26th September 2016, 05:10 PM	#7
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	Whilst this is not my usual subject I thought to invest this picture where the specialists in spears may throw light upon these exhibits please..I have the key somewhere and will add it asap... Attached Images

27th October 2010, 06:41 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	They are certainly Indonesian. The one next to them is Moro. Would you show close ups as well of that one?

27th October 2010, 08:11 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,786	Yes, agree with Jose, certainly indonesian spears, maybe from Sumatra. Regards, Detlef

29th October 2010, 07:51 AM	#4
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	Hello Roy, Nice examples ! My feeling about the one with the brass collar is also sumatra. I have spears with similar decorations in the wood, but the decoration continuing in the brass collar is very nice. never seen that before. For the one with the silver collar I am not sure. You see these silver collars also on Borneo, where it is not indigenous BTW but is an influence from abroad. Maybe keris connaiseurs can give some clues based on the forging of the blade with the holes It would be nice to see pictures of the other spearheads too, although they are not that elaborate, Interesting to compare them. Best regards, Willem