Keris Java Yogyakarta Options please

Patje1970 · 27th June 2018, 08:46 PM

Hello,

Is it possible to identify the pamor on these pictures? Seems to me that this keris is more recent.

regards Pat

Bjorn · 27th June 2018, 10:33 PM

To me, it looks like the pamor - at least from the sorsoran up - is a rendition of lawe setukal.

A. G. Maisey · 27th June 2018, 10:41 PM

Yes, this is a current era Madura blade, +/-1982 > 2015.

The pamor gives the appearance of being tri warna, ie, three pamors, but in fact it is only one pamor that has been incorrectly handled. That first, intentional pamor is Lawe Setukal and it can be seen in the mid-section of the blade, the pamor motif running into the sorsoran gives the appearance of Pancal, the pamor running to the penitis is not a nameable motif. These two motifs are the result of incorrect forging technique that has resulted in elongation of the Lawe Setukal motif.

Still, all that said, the end result is quite attractive, and even though incorrect and badly done for the pamor motif that was set up, the end result is really not too bad.

Patje1970 · 28th June 2018, 04:27 PM

Hi Bjorn and A. G. Maisey

Thank you for the detailed information

regards Pat

27th June 2018, 08:46 PM	#1
Patje1970 Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 51	Keris Java Yogyakarta Options please Hello, Is it possible to identify the pamor on these pictures? Seems to me that this keris is more recent. regards Pat Attached Images

27th June 2018, 10:33 PM	#2
Bjorn Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 188	To me, it looks like the pamor - at least from the sorsoran up - is a rendition of lawe setukal.

27th June 2018, 10:41 PM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,893	Yes, this is a current era Madura blade, +/-1982 > 2015. The pamor gives the appearance of being tri warna, ie, three pamors, but in fact it is only one pamor that has been incorrectly handled. That first, intentional pamor is Lawe Setukal and it can be seen in the mid-section of the blade, the pamor motif running into the sorsoran gives the appearance of Pancal, the pamor running to the penitis is not a nameable motif. These two motifs are the result of incorrect forging technique that has resulted in elongation of the Lawe Setukal motif. Still, all that said, the end result is quite attractive, and even though incorrect and badly done for the pamor motif that was set up, the end result is really not too bad.

28th June 2018, 04:27 PM	#4
Patje1970 Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 51	Hi Bjorn and A. G. Maisey Thank you for the detailed information regards Pat