![]() |
![]() |
#1 |
Member
Join Date: Jun 2022
Posts: 8
|
![]()
Hi All
Here is a couple of kris swords/daggers that i aquired recently ,I cant say i know alot about them , i believe they are bugis keris and look like they have some age , any more info will be much appreciated Thanks |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#2 |
Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,237
|
![]()
Yes, both are Bugis style because of the hexagonal cross section of the blade, but origin of both most probably is Southern coast of Sumatra. The darker hilt would be associated with Riau province, the light brown one could be from more Southern part of Sumatra, possibly Jambi.
Both blades are pre-1900, could be even pre-1880, the smaller one has a nice Pamor, similar to Javanese Pamor Rante. Unfortunately the tip of Sekar Kacang (or Belalai Gajah) on it is broken. That`s a pity, because Lambe Gajah and Pamor looks fine, it probably was a slightly better quality blade. Also the hilt cup is a finer one. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#3 |
Keris forum moderator
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 7,100
|
![]()
Gustav, does to appear to you as if the surface of these blades have been polished down somewhat? I would expect to see a more topographical surface on old Bugis blades like these.
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#4 |
Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,237
|
![]()
Yes David, there is a possibility for that.
I also thought about it. The question is, if the time alone is responsible for the smoothened surface, or there has been a slight cleaning with polishing. It would be interesting to know, if the blades were stained with Warangan. Old Warangan would still "bleed" out of the blade while soaking in pineaple juice. From my experience we more likely could expect Warangan on a blade, which wasn't excessively topographically etched. I own a similar smaller blade with hexagonal cross section, which is smooth and has an old Warangan finish. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#5 | |
Member
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,818
|
![]() Quote:
The lighter coloured hulu is Jambi to my eye. From the photo, it seems the blade, hulu and pendokok have been apart at some stage. The broken trunk, it was bought to my attention a while back, there are craftsmen repairing/replacing these areas with silver. Given silver can be blackened like the blades, it does seem an interesting proposition. Gavin |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#6 |
Member
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 177
|
![]()
Pls can someone explain what Jambi is? Is it a type of wood or ivory? Thanks
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#7 |
Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,237
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#8 |
Keris forum moderator
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 7,100
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#9 |
Member
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 177
|
![]()
Thanks for clarifying. I am grateful.
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
|
|