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Old 18th March 2023, 10:42 PM   #1
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Maybe a puer tea cake knife. It is used to break up puer tea cakes or bricks since they may be pressed tightly.

See attached link. I couldn't get a picture of the knife shown. The shape is similar to yours.

https://www.umiteasets.com/products/...cake-axe-knife
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Old 18th March 2023, 11:34 PM   #2
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Thanks, Ed, that seems like a pretty compelling ID, indeed!

The shown knife is a modern rendition and, thus, less likely to be true to its type. Let's see if we can come up with any antique examples which would carry more weight for final conclusions...

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Old 19th March 2023, 03:15 AM   #3
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Ed,

Thank you so much!!! I think you have solved my riddle. The Oriental figure (a woman I believe) on the sheath could easily be Chinese, and pu-ehr tea, which is manufactured in bricks, is peculiar to Yunnan and neighboring northern Thailand, Laos and Vietnam. There is a nice online explanation of pu-ehr tea and pu-ehr cakes here.

My knife is clearly decorative in its sheath, and would fit well a tea service. As to its origin, I think we need to look to where pu-ehr tea is popular in southern China and neighboring SE Asia. The hilt is carved horn, with what I have called a dog-head pommel, but could be a cat. The horn type is consistent with water buffalo and it has some slight beetle damage consistent with horn damage on other hilts, etc. The brass sheath has a plain rear side and the engraved front as shown above and in more detail in Wayne's post.

Wayne, thanks for enlarging the picture of the front of the sheath. Thanks also to Stu who raised the idea the figure could be collecting tea. I had not thought of tea when I first saw it.

I'm fairly sure that Ed has nailed this one, and I thank him for finding the closely matching blade profile.

For our archives, here are pictures from the site Ed referenced:


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Old 19th March 2023, 03:30 AM   #4
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Given that this knife is probably not a weapon, I'm moving it over to the Miscellaneous Forum.
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Old 19th March 2023, 04:51 AM   #5
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Ed,

Thank you so much!!! I think you have solved my riddle. The Oriental figure (a woman I believe) on the sheath could easily be Chinese, and pu-ehr tea, which is manufactured in bricks, is peculiar to Yunnan and neighboring northern Thailand, Laos and Vietnam. There is a nice online explanation of pu-ehr tea and pu-ehr cakes here.

My knife is clearly decorative in its sheath, and would fit well a tea service. As to its origin, I think we need to look to where pu-ehr tea is popular in southern China and neighboring SE Asia. The hilt is carved horn, with what I have called a dog-head pommel, but could be a cat. The horn type is consistent with water buffalo and it has some slight beetle damage consistent with horn damage on other hilts, etc. The brass sheath has a plain rear side and the engraved front as shown above and in more detail in Wayne's post.

Wayne, thanks for enlarging the picture of the front of the sheath. Thanks also to Stu who raised the idea the figure could be collecting tea. I had not thought of tea when I first saw it.

I'm fairly sure that Ed has nailed this one, and I thank him for finding the closely matching blade profile.
Hi Ian,
I think more likely a man as a bald head with a Que (pigtail) was common in early China. Just a thought.............
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Old 19th March 2023, 10:42 AM   #6
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...Wayne, thanks for enlarging the picture of the front of the sheath...
So illuminating indeed... and i mean it. A tot of Port for Wayne .
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Old 23rd March 2023, 10:55 AM   #7
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Old 13th April 2023, 05:30 PM   #8
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Just spotted a photo of a similar knife on this page (scroll about half-way down the page):

https://www.artoftheancestors.com/bl...-van-zonneveld
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Old 13th April 2023, 09:50 PM   #9
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Sorry, this is a completely different blade, I'm afraid: Different size & purpose, ethnic group, etc. Thanks for keeping an open eye though!
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