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Hello,
This is the best Shibriya I have found to buy. I would appreciate any comments. Can anybody help with the translation of the writting on the blade please? Marius |
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Hello Marius,
good workmanship but I am afraid, it's very recent. ![]() Regards, Detlef |
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In common with many weapons of this type the makers name is usually present ...Made By...(amal) and a date... as seen on your example.
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Why "afraid"?! As long as it is genuine, made with traditional materials and workmanship, I don't care if it was made tomorrow (btw. I believe mine to be from the 90'). I have many exceptional pieces in my collection that were made in the last 17 years. I would only be afraid if it were made in China or India... ![]() PS: Thank you Ibrahiim! Can you make sense of the date? |
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[QUOTE=mariusgmioc]
As long as it is genuine, made with traditional materials and workmanship, I don't care if it was made tomorrow. I would only be afraid if it were made in China or India... QUOTE] A very convincing and wise answer, thank you! corrado26 |
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A very convincing and wise answer, thank you corrado26 |
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A lovely example, and better craftsmanship of the Houshan family. The dagger is made in 53, which is 1953, not hijri :-)
Is it white metal or silver? |
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Hi Marius, I am joining the others. This is a nice classic shibriya from Jordan. I have seen a few that are virtually identical. This type is great because it is basic and well made, with only geometric decorations on no plastic or glass "stones".
Even without the date of 53, there are some features that show its age like: the decoration is made by simple engraving in straight lines, similar to Shayde78's shibriya in this recent thread http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=23214 dating from about the same period. Later examples were either made by hammering over a template of with a zigzag line made by rocking the chisel while moving over the sheet-both are much quicker and more efficients methods. The blade is a nice recurve with flat diamond cross section. Later blades have one side almost straight and a flat eliptical cross section. So there is definitely a link between style and age or in other words - age does matter. Eytan |
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it was just said without scoring! ![]() ![]() ![]() Regards, Detlef |
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Thank you guys for the comments!
Of course I am happy to learn it is much older than I have thought, but even if it wasn't, I would still have liked it for what it is. ![]() And yes, the blade is quite strong, maybe even strong enough to deliver a deadly blow but certainly much stronger than the Shibriyas I found during my trip to Jordan. And yes, I met even a few Badia policemen but their Shibriyas were no better than those in the Bazaar. PS: white metal, not silver (maybe with the exception of the thread) |
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