Piso Halasan?

Emanuel · 30th October 2006, 12:09 AM

Hello,

I've just won the bid for this http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1
advertised as a "batak sword".
To me it looks lika a piso halasan http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=2322 (courtesy of Oriental-Arms) a weapon that has been discussed here before. I am a bit worried by the hair/buffalo tail at the tip of the scabbard, but it looks authentic enough.

Are these prone to forgery and the tourist industry yet or are they still relatively safe from modern mutilators?
I rather like the looks of these...this one is 18"-20" as I recall the original description, so a 13"-14" blade?
Comments would be most appreciated.
Emanuel

Emanuel · 30th October 2006, 05:08 PM

no comments?

Battara · 30th October 2006, 06:46 PM

I do think it is Batak. I would not worry about the buffalo hair. Many weapons in the area have hair attached (buffalo, pig, goat, human, etc). Looks authentic enough.

Dajak · 31st October 2006, 05:05 AM

Hi this one look like an tourist piece I have seen a lot off these piece s like these in Kuta and Sanur In Bali .

Real pieces That I have seen for sale price mostly something like at least 2000.00 euro .

Some pieces are so difficult to see if they are real that if you like to buy one
see better some Batak collectors and take the sword with you.

The hair you see mostly at some spears Or ritual staffs

Regards , Ben

Battara · 31st October 2006, 06:12 PM

thanks Dajak. Not seen a tourist piece before. Are these pictures from Sothebys and if so, which one?

Emanuel · 31st October 2006, 06:51 PM

Thanks for the answer Ben,
I'm anxious to receive it and have a good look at it, but in your experience, how are the blades on these tourist examples? Is the steel/metal descent or generally of poor quality?
The examples in the catalogue all seem of very high quality - or at least use expensive materials. Any pictures of simpler, common variety?

I'll certainly keep your advice in mind for future purchases.
Regards,
Emanuel

30th October 2006, 12:09 AM	#1
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Piso Halasan? Hello, I've just won the bid for this http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1 advertised as a "batak sword". To me it looks lika a piso halasan http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=2322 (courtesy of Oriental-Arms) a weapon that has been discussed here before. I am a bit worried by the hair/buffalo tail at the tip of the scabbard, but it looks authentic enough. Are these prone to forgery and the tourist industry yet or are they still relatively safe from modern mutilators? I rather like the looks of these...this one is 18"-20" as I recall the original description, so a 13"-14" blade? Comments would be most appreciated. Emanuel Attached Images

31st October 2006, 05:05 AM	#4
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi this one look like an tourist piece I have seen a lot off these piece s like these in Kuta and Sanur In Bali . Real pieces That I have seen for sale price mostly something like at least 2000.00 euro . Some pieces are so difficult to see if they are real that if you like to buy one see better some Batak collectors and take the sword with you. The hair you see mostly at some spears Or ritual staffs Regards , Ben Attached Images

30th October 2006, 05:08 PM	#2
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	no comments?

30th October 2006, 06:46 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,167	I do think it is Batak. I would not worry about the buffalo hair. Many weapons in the area have hair attached (buffalo, pig, goat, human, etc). Looks authentic enough.

31st October 2006, 06:12 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,167	thanks Dajak. Not seen a tourist piece before. Are these pictures from Sothebys and if so, which one?

31st October 2006, 06:51 PM	#6
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Thanks for the answer Ben, I'm anxious to receive it and have a good look at it, but in your experience, how are the blades on these tourist examples? Is the steel/metal descent or generally of poor quality? The examples in the catalogue all seem of very high quality - or at least use expensive materials. Any pictures of simpler, common variety? I'll certainly keep your advice in mind for future purchases. Regards, Emanuel