THE AXES OF INDIA

VANDOO · 1st May 2015, 09:07 PM

THERE IS QUITE A RICH VARIETY OF AXES IN INDIA FROM SEVERAL TRIBES, REGIONS AND EMPIRES. SO I THINK IT WOULD MAKE AN INTERESTING REFERENCE AND HOPEFULLY EVERYONE CAN PITCH IN WITH SOME EXAMPLES.

#1. 19TH. CENTURY INDIA WITH EBONY SHAFT.
#2. CHOTA NAGPUR INDIA, 36 X 9 INCHES
#3. INDIA AX
#4. & #5. INDIA BULLOWA AX WITH INTERESTING PATTERN TO BLADE
#6. INDIA TABAR AXES AND A SHISHPAR MACE
#7. INDO PERSIAN AX ALL METAL, 22.5 IN. LONG
#8. & #9 KHOND BEAKED WAR HAMMER SIMILAR TO ZAGHNAL
#10. KHOND REGION, CHOTA NAGPUR
#11. KHOND REGION CHOTA NAGPUR AX VARIATIONS
#12. KHOND WAR AX INDIA

VANDOO · 1st May 2015, 09:34 PM

A FEW MORE TO GET IT OFF TO A GOOD START.

#1. INDIA AX
#2. INDIA AX BLADE 12 INCHES ACROSS
#3. NORTH INDIA WAR AX
#4. BULLOVA AX
#5. INDO PERSIAN AX?
#6. INDIA BULLOVA
#7. SOUTH INDIA TABAR AX 18TH CENTURY
#8 & #9. SAFAVID AX
#10. AX
#11. AX WILD TRIBES OF INDIA 32.5 INCHES LONG
#12. INDO PERSIAN AX.

CharlesS · 2nd May 2015, 12:45 AM

Great thread Barry. Personally, I am not a big fan of the "pot metal" ceremonial axes, but you have shown some other lovely examples here!

VANDOO · 12th May 2015, 11:06 PM

I TEND TO PREFER THE REAL BATTLE AXES BUT THE FANCY DECORATIVE PARADE AXES OR THOSE GOLD AND SILVER INLAYED ONES ARE NICE IN THEIR OWN WAY TOO.
#1. A SMALL ORNATE AX FROM INDIA.
#2 THRU #8 VARIOUS INDIA OR INDO-PERSIAN AXES NO MEASUREMENTS.
#9. INDO-PERSIAN SADDLE AX 30 INCH LONG

ALL COMMENTS, CORRECTIONS AND INFORMATION ON THESE ARE WELCOME.

Kubur · 13th May 2015, 12:25 AM

number 2 Sudan
the four last ones Persian, even Qajar

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kronckew · 13th May 2015, 08:33 AM

my bullova

estcrh · 13th May 2015, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CharlesS

Great thread Barry. Personally, I am not a big fan of the "pot metal" ceremonial axes, but you have shown some other lovely examples here!

"Pot metal" ceremonial axes, are some being shown?

estcrh · 13th May 2015, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by VANDOO

A FEW MORE TO GET IT OFF TO A GOOD START.

#1. INDIA AX
#2. INDIA AX BLADE 12 INCHES ACROSS
#3. NORTH INDIA WAR AX
#4. BULLOVA AX
#5. INDO PERSIAN AX?
#6. INDIA BULLOVA
#7. SOUTH INDIA TABAR AX 18TH CENTURY
#8 & #9. SAFAVID AX
#10. AX
#11. AX WILD TRIBES OF INDIA 32.5 INCHES LONG
#12. INDO PERSIAN AX.

Is this axe Indian? The description on pinterest says:"Undulated-edged axe-blade, hollow at the back, engraved with cartouches depicting busts among foliage; crescent-shaped beak; wooden haft with opening at the handle. Europe - 19th Century".

VANDOO · 15th May 2015, 06:20 PM

THANKS FOR POSTING THE NICE EXAMPLES TRAJAN AND KRONCKEW ,QUITE A NICE SELECTION. ESTCRH I CAN'T SAY IF THE AX IS FROM INDIA FOR SURE BUT I DOUBT IT IS FROM EUROPE UNLESS IT WAS MADE UP TO LOOK LIKE A ORIENTAL AX WHEN SUCH THINGS WERE POPULAR THERE. THE MAN WITH TURBAN AND THE CRESCENT MOON LOOKS LIKE IT SHOWS THE ISLAMIC INFLUENCE OF PERSIA OR PERHAPS THE MOORS. I AM NOT SURE WHERE I GOT THE PICTURE BUT IT ENDED UP AS INDO PERSIAN IN MY FILES. SO PERHAPS IT DOES NOT BELONG IN THIS POST

NICE TO HAVE A GOOD LARGE PICTURE OF IT TO LOOK AT ANYWAY. THANKS.

kronckew · 15th May 2015, 07:12 PM

are zaghnols axes? i think they are generally lumped in with them.

estcrh · 16th May 2015, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kronckew

are zaghnols axes? i think they are generally lumped in with them.

I put them with war hammers/war picks but why not with axes here? Then there are the tabar-zaghnal.

Kurt · 16th May 2015, 11:43 AM

Suspect India 18th century.
Heavy ax.
Wootz head.
Stem wood with schagrin leather .
In wood a reinforcement of iron.
Kurt

estcrh · 16th May 2015, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by VANDOO

ESTCRH I CAN'T SAY IF THE AX IS FROM INDIA FOR SURE BUT I DOUBT IT IS FROM EUROPE UNLESS IT WAS MADE UP TO LOOK LIKE A ORIENTAL AX WHEN SUCH THINGS WERE POPULAR THERE. THE MAN WITH TURBAN AND THE CRESCENT MOON LOOKS LIKE IT SHOWS THE ISLAMIC INFLUENCE OF PERSIA OR PERHAPS THE MOORS. I AM NOT SURE WHERE I GOT THE PICTURE BUT IT ENDED UP AS INDO PERSIAN IN MY FILES. SO PERHAPS IT DOES NOT BELONG IN THIS POST

NICE TO HAVE A GOOD LARGE PICTURE OF IT TO LOOK AT ANYWAY. THANKS.

Here is a link to the auction were it was sold and the full description.

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An axe of the miner's guild Undulated-edged axe-blade, hollow at the back, engraved with cartouches depicting busts among foliage; crescent-shaped beak; wooden haft with opening at the handle.
dimensions: height 52.5 cm.
provenance: Europe
dating: 19th Century

http://www.invaluable.com/auction-lo...1-c-83abed681d

VANDOO · 16th May 2015, 11:57 PM

IT APPEARS TO BE A POT METAL WALL HANGER MADE FOR DECOR IT DOESN'T HAVE AN EDGE AS FAR AS I CAN SEE.
IT DOES BRING UP THE QUESTION ARE SUCH ITEMS ETHNOGRAPHIC? THEY ARE USUALLY EITHER REPLICAS OR FANTASY TYPE ITEMS MADE UP TO LOOK LIKE ANTIQUES OR SOMETHING FROM ANOTHER CULTURE, SO IN THAT REGARD ARE NOT ETHNOGRAPHIC. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND THEY WERE POPULAR ITEMS OF DECOR MADE IN EUROPE FOR EUROPEANS DOES THAT MAKE THEM ETHNOGRAPHIC DECOR.

kronckew · 25th May 2015, 06:32 PM

does afghani tabarzin axes count? - indo-persian? another recent acquisition of mine:

Edward F · 13th June 2015, 12:28 AM

This is what got me collecting the wide range of weapons and ceremonial items.

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kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,184	are zaghnols axes? i think they are generally lumped in with them. Attached Images

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Kurt Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 196	Indian ax Suspect India 18th century. Heavy ax. Wootz head. Stem wood with schagrin leather . In wood a reinforcement of iron. Kurt Attached Images

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kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,184	does afghani tabarzin axes count? - indo-persian? another recent acquisition of mine: Attached Images

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VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THE AXES OF INDIA THERE IS QUITE A RICH VARIETY OF AXES IN INDIA FROM SEVERAL TRIBES, REGIONS AND EMPIRES. SO I THINK IT WOULD MAKE AN INTERESTING REFERENCE AND HOPEFULLY EVERYONE CAN PITCH IN WITH SOME EXAMPLES. #1. 19TH. CENTURY INDIA WITH EBONY SHAFT. #2. CHOTA NAGPUR INDIA, 36 X 9 INCHES #3. INDIA AX #4. & #5. INDIA BULLOWA AX WITH INTERESTING PATTERN TO BLADE #6. INDIA TABAR AXES AND A SHISHPAR MACE #7. INDO PERSIAN AX ALL METAL, 22.5 IN. LONG #8. & #9 KHOND BEAKED WAR HAMMER SIMILAR TO ZAGHNAL #10. KHOND REGION, CHOTA NAGPUR #11. KHOND REGION CHOTA NAGPUR AX VARIATIONS #12. KHOND WAR AX INDIA Attached Images

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VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A FEW MORE TO GET IT OFF TO A GOOD START. #1. INDIA AX #2. INDIA AX BLADE 12 INCHES ACROSS #3. NORTH INDIA WAR AX #4. BULLOVA AX #5. INDO PERSIAN AX? #6. INDIA BULLOVA #7. SOUTH INDIA TABAR AX 18TH CENTURY #8 & #9. SAFAVID AX #10. AX #11. AX WILD TRIBES OF INDIA 32.5 INCHES LONG #12. INDO PERSIAN AX. Attached Images

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CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	Great thread Barry. Personally, I am not a big fan of the "pot metal" ceremonial axes, but you have shown some other lovely examples here!

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VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I TEND TO PREFER THE REAL BATTLE AXES BUT THE FANCY DECORATIVE PARADE AXES OR THOSE GOLD AND SILVER INLAYED ONES ARE NICE IN THEIR OWN WAY TOO. #1. A SMALL ORNATE AX FROM INDIA. #2 THRU #8 VARIOUS INDIA OR INDO-PERSIAN AXES NO MEASUREMENTS. #9. INDO-PERSIAN SADDLE AX 30 INCH LONG ALL COMMENTS, CORRECTIONS AND INFORMATION ON THESE ARE WELCOME. Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 12th May 2015 at 11:26 PM.

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VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THANKS FOR POSTING THE NICE EXAMPLES TRAJAN AND KRONCKEW ,QUITE A NICE SELECTION. ESTCRH I CAN'T SAY IF THE AX IS FROM INDIA FOR SURE BUT I DOUBT IT IS FROM EUROPE UNLESS IT WAS MADE UP TO LOOK LIKE A ORIENTAL AX WHEN SUCH THINGS WERE POPULAR THERE. THE MAN WITH TURBAN AND THE CRESCENT MOON LOOKS LIKE IT SHOWS THE ISLAMIC INFLUENCE OF PERSIA OR PERHAPS THE MOORS. I AM NOT SURE WHERE I GOT THE PICTURE BUT IT ENDED UP AS INDO PERSIAN IN MY FILES. SO PERHAPS IT DOES NOT BELONG IN THIS POST NICE TO HAVE A GOOD LARGE PICTURE OF IT TO LOOK AT ANYWAY. THANKS.

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VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	IT APPEARS TO BE A POT METAL WALL HANGER MADE FOR DECOR IT DOESN'T HAVE AN EDGE AS FAR AS I CAN SEE. IT DOES BRING UP THE QUESTION ARE SUCH ITEMS ETHNOGRAPHIC? THEY ARE USUALLY EITHER REPLICAS OR FANTASY TYPE ITEMS MADE UP TO LOOK LIKE ANTIQUES OR SOMETHING FROM ANOTHER CULTURE, SO IN THAT REGARD ARE NOT ETHNOGRAPHIC. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND THEY WERE POPULAR ITEMS OF DECOR MADE IN EUROPE FOR EUROPEANS DOES THAT MAKE THEM ETHNOGRAPHIC DECOR.