Wootz Dagger, Persian?

William Fox · 8th March 2019, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by motan

Hi William,
I am not an expert like Ariel and Kubur, so I can only join in with what is already said. Quality Persian Khanjar blade, re-mounted in the Kurdish style. The hilt material is horn, probably not water buffalo horn like most Kurdish daggers, but could be cow, goat or sheep-hard to say. There is no reason to think that the hilt is modern in any way. It is also hard to say whether the sheath is as old as the blade or as the hilt, but it is of good quality.
Some collectors may look down on such pieces because they are not in their original condition, but I think it has its charm, because it shows how these quality blades were valued and reused, something that is very common in swords, but less so with daggers.

Thanks Motan. So true.
I have a Japanese sword with a 15th century blade in WW2 mounts. British officers remounted Persian wootz shamshir blades in 19th regulation century cavalry hilts. Quality and prestigious blades were hilted throughout history.

I'm fascinated by the different patterns of wootz steel created in Persia. Can anyone recommend the best books on the subject that would help me identify the different styles of Persian steel?

Bryce · 9th March 2019, 07:23 PM

G'day William,
This style of Persian khanjar blade can be found on a variety of different hilts from all over the place, but almost always seem to be made of good quality Wootz. Does this tell us that these blades were widely prized, but all produced in a relatively tight time-frame and location?
Cheers,
Bryce

Rick · 9th March 2019, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by William Fox

I'm fascinated by the different patterns of wootz steel created in Persia. Can anyone recommend the best books on the subject that would help me identify the different styles of Persian steel?

On Damascus Steel by Leo Figiel would be a starting place.

William Fox · 31st July 2022, 04:58 PM

Three years later, and I my collection has evolved to be exclusively swords. I am selling any remaining daggers I have, including this one. Would anyone have any opinion as to the current market price?

Interested Party · 31st July 2022, 06:03 PM

Swap forum could be a good starting place. Throw it out there and see what it brings

Ian · 31st July 2022, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by William Fox

Three years later, and I my collection has evolved to be exclusively swords. I am selling any remaining daggers I have, including this one. Would anyone have any opinion as to the current market price?

William,

We don't discuss valuations on the discussion forum. Please take such discussions to PM or email with other members.

Battara · 1st August 2022, 12:46 AM

My understanding is also that one is allowed to wear green if one has been on the hajj.

31st July 2022, 04:58 PM	#4
William Fox Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Great Britain Posts: 24	Three years later, and I my collection has evolved to be exclusively swords. I am selling any remaining daggers I have, including this one. Would anyone have any opinion as to the current market price? Last edited by Ian; 31st July 2022 at 09:53 PM.

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Bryce Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: North Queensland, Australia Posts: 174	G'day William, This style of Persian khanjar blade can be found on a variety of different hilts from all over the place, but almost always seem to be made of good quality Wootz. Does this tell us that these blades were widely prized, but all produced in a relatively tight time-frame and location? Cheers, Bryce

31st July 2022, 06:03 PM	#5
Interested Party Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Eastern Sierra Posts: 392	Swap forum could be a good starting place. Throw it out there and see what it brings

1st August 2022, 12:46 AM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	My understanding is also that one is allowed to wear green if one has been on the hajj.