11th January 2013, 04:39 PM | #1 |
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two knifes for id
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can you give me the origin of these two knives the largest measuring 33 cm long, blade 18 cm There is a marking on the blade rest the handle is in ivory the small measuring 24.5 cm long, the blade 13 cm a marking on the blade the handle is in ivory the scabbard is made of leather with drawings |
11th January 2013, 04:41 PM | #2 |
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the small knife
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11th January 2013, 06:01 PM | #3 |
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We have had a thread on these knives sometime in the past year. Not sure if the origins were definitely decided. Anyone have the link?
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11th January 2013, 07:34 PM | #4 |
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My guess is that these are from Tibet. I saw the same type of knives on the border area between Nepal and Tibet when I was trawelling there on 2007.
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It may be this thread .... http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=5314 Kind Regards David |
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11th January 2013, 10:28 PM | #6 |
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Hmmm, I've seen several attributions for these knives. All with some merit. But I've never seen one with a scabbard, until now.
The scabbard on this example reminds me of some Khodmi scabbards. |
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that might be this one: Thread link
do a search on 'khodmi', there are more threads with this style. on this particular knife style the opinions vary from scandanavia to north africa, and to tibet and burma on the other side. it might even BE a khodmi. or not. i'd be safe to say it is probably NOT n. or s. american. the red dotted circle motif seems to be universal, or worldwide. |
12th January 2013, 11:55 AM | #9 |
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These have started to turn up regularly over the last year or two. They clearly represent a specific type and not just a couple of atypical anomalies.
I was leaning toward the Burmese attribution as proposed by Jonathan (Spiral) and others. But I would have expected a 'more Burmese' scabbard if that was the case As I said above, the scabbard on it's own would make me think Algeria/North Africa. The stepped bolsters also remind me of the Khodmi. Here are a couple of pictures of a Khodmi of mine to show where my meandering thought process is headed. Sorry it's still in the 'to be cleaned' group! P.S. This Khodmi is dated 1929. |
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12th January 2013, 08:18 PM | #11 |
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this topic is still relevant. smile I am also not yet progressed, my feeling still says Central Asia. here's a link http://vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=11216 greeting Chregu |
13th January 2013, 11:33 AM | #12 |
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Just found this one trawling the net for pictures:
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16th January 2013, 04:31 PM | #13 |
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Anthony Tirri in his "Islamic and Native Weapons of Colonial Africa" has this down as Maure, which I think is just a French spelling of Moor. Basically it is the Arab\Berber population of the western Mahgreb\Sahel\Sahara.
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likely origin?
hi,
i recently got two of these on eBay. the seller seemed to think they were from Assam. rather mysterious given all teh comments. cheers, skip |
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We have had discussions on a number of knives and a Ram Dao with similar markings . This Ram Dao is attributed to Assam notice the markings on the blade .....click the appropriate pic to enlarge..
Regards David Last edited by Robert; 6th August 2013 at 06:26 PM. Reason: Links to items being offered for sale are expressly prohibited by forum rules. |
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