Part Japanese Armour

Norman McCormick · 5th April 2018, 06:24 PM

Hi,
I have absolutely no experience with Japanese items apart from a sword which I sold some 40 odd years ago. I know the arm guards are Kote and the thigh guard is Haidate and that is it, therefore I would appreciate it if any knowledgeable members would care to enlighten me as to the when, where etc.
Regards,
Norman.

Norman McCormick · 5th April 2018, 06:25 PM

More photographs.
Regards,
Norman.

Battara · 6th April 2018, 12:18 AM

Very nice. Wish I could wear them!

Oliver Pinchot · 6th April 2018, 03:25 AM

You will be reassured to know that they can be precisely dated to the Edo Period (1603-1868.)

Norman McCormick · 6th April 2018, 05:21 PM

Hi,
Many thanks for the kind words and information. I have a few questions. Who was likely to wear this kind of armour? I have the impression that it was probably a retainer rather than anyone of rank. The Edo period spans quite a number of years, is there anyway of narrowing the timeline or was this armour type used more or less unchanged throughout the time period 1603-1868?
My Regards,
Norman.

Bob A · 6th April 2018, 05:42 PM

Fascinating to see this, thank you.

The cordage used to fasten the armor to the arms looks modern. Is that the case?

Norman McCormick · 6th April 2018, 06:17 PM

Hi Bob,
The cord, is as far as I'm aware, contemporary with the rest of the armour.
Regards,
Norman.

fernando · 6th April 2018, 06:25 PM

Broadening your collecting area, Norman ... and shrinking your sporran ?

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David R · 6th April 2018, 11:05 PM

Samurai retainer. The presence of a hand-guard is the give away.... Ashigaru armour lacks this feature. See picture.

Norman McCormick · 9th April 2018, 08:05 PM

Hi,
David, thank you for the illustration and clarification

My Regards,
Norman.

Norman McCormick · 9th April 2018, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando

Broadening your collecting area, Norman ... and shrinking your sporran ?

.

Hi Fernando,
A SHRINKING SPORRAN aaaaaaagh

blasphemy sheer blasphemy!!!!!!

Just following an old tradition, have you never heard of Thomas Blake Glover the 'Scottish Samurai'!
Kind Regards,
Norman.

P.S. The wife wants to know if you've picked up any new four legged waifs recently?

fernando · 9th April 2018, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman McCormick

... The wife wants to know if you've picked up any new four legged waifs recently?...

Yes, Carolina; a she dog abandoned in the city park, needing full (all twelve) mastectomy. She is presently doing fine, though

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... But the bill also shrank my sporran, mo charaid

Norman McCormick · 10th April 2018, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando

Yes, Carolina; a she dog abandoned in the city park, needing full (all twelve) mastectomy. She is presently doing fine, though

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... But the bill also shrank my sporran, mo charaid

Fernando you're still her hero, photo request of latest addition to my e-mail.
Kind Regards,
Norman

5th April 2018, 06:24 PM	#1
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,596	Part Japanese Armour Hi, I have absolutely no experience with Japanese items apart from a sword which I sold some 40 odd years ago. I know the arm guards are Kote and the thigh guard is Haidate and that is it, therefore I would appreciate it if any knowledgeable members would care to enlighten me as to the when, where etc. Regards, Norman. Attached Images

5th April 2018, 06:25 PM	#2
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,596	More photographs. Regards, Norman. Attached Images

6th April 2018, 11:05 PM	#9
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,079	Samurai retainer. The presence of a hand-guard is the give away.... Ashigaru armour lacks this feature. See picture. Attached Images

6th April 2018, 12:18 AM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	Very nice. Wish I could wear them!

6th April 2018, 03:25 AM	#4
Oliver Pinchot Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 457	You will be reassured to know that they can be precisely dated to the Edo Period (1603-1868.)

6th April 2018, 05:21 PM	#5
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,596	Hi, Many thanks for the kind words and information. I have a few questions. Who was likely to wear this kind of armour? I have the impression that it was probably a retainer rather than anyone of rank. The Edo period spans quite a number of years, is there anyway of narrowing the timeline or was this armour type used more or less unchanged throughout the time period 1603-1868? My Regards, Norman.

6th April 2018, 05:42 PM	#6
Bob A Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 427	Fascinating to see this, thank you. The cordage used to fasten the armor to the arms looks modern. Is that the case?

6th April 2018, 06:17 PM	#7
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,596	Hi Bob, The cord, is as far as I'm aware, contemporary with the rest of the armour. Regards, Norman.

6th April 2018, 06:25 PM	#8
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Broadening your collecting area, Norman ... and shrinking your sporran ? .

9th April 2018, 08:05 PM	#10
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,596	Hi, David, thank you for the illustration and clarification My Regards, Norman.